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Ensho

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  1. Static voltage? I'm not the most qualified to speak on it, but no..not really so long as you keep your temps cool and stay within reason on your vcore. Over the very, very long haul...maybe so. I just personally like the idea of taking the voltage out of the processor and only running it full speed when it really needs it. With higher overclocks and higher load voltages..yes...that is a good thing. I've heard Asrock does similar to what Asus does with adaptive voltage...I've just never been able to confirm it. So, they do as well huh? Cool.
  2. Depending on the motherboard you have, if you enter the voltage manually you will not be able to use any of the power saving features. MSI and Gigabyte are like that, Asus is more user friendly in that regard. For Gigabyte and MSI you have to leave the voltage on Auto or Normal and use Dynamic VID offset to customize your applied voltage and take advantage of Intel's power saving features. I have no idea why Gigabyte and MSI's bios teams can't figure out a better way to do it like Asus, but it is what it is.
  3. I now see why running benchmarks on a fresh OS install with as little other stuff installed as possible is recommended. I guess once MS gets all their spyware up and running it drains cpu resources. Stock settings with 1.165v with normal priority after fresh install of W10 = 40 more points than usual...1004cb. I should have run it real time as well to see what the result was, but it was getting late and it slipped my mind.
  4. You sure that is the actual voltage and not the VID? No way with 1.5v your load temp is 77c. That could certainly be possible with 1.39v-1.4v. If the VID is 1.5v, the actual voltage may be 1.4v. I don't know how the Asus software stresses the cpu in their AI Suite though.
  5. Never update your bios without resetting your bios to system defaults as well. Bios updates are simple if you do them right. The best way is to put the bios file on a usb, restart the computer, go into your bios, load system defaults, reboot, go into uefi bios flash utility upon reboot and direct it to your usb drive. As others have mentioned, you are going to have to send the board to MSI.
  6. Yeah, it has mounting holes in the motherboard for both AM3 and AM4 backplates so the the H100i V2 with the included AM3 backplate should be fine. It's a more expensive board, but it is better...and they have gotten their bios issues behind them now for the most part with their latest bios which if you decide to get it you definitely need to install first before you do anything.
  7. The Asus Crosshair is the only board with both AM3 and AM4 mounts.
  8. Yes. I added that. I have a tendency to post, then realize I probably need to elaborate my point to finish my thought to be sure I am not misunderstood
  9. Ryzen has the ipc of Broadwell-e at best...not Skylake and Kabylake. SL and KL are around 7% IPC faster...so even clock for clock Ryzen will lose out in games. Coupled with the limitations of their Infinity Fabric...Ryzen will never match i7s in gaming. The difference is simply a matter of more cores which will content creation type applications. This is why given Intel does not price them too high...Skylake-E will restructure the cpu market once again later this summer. No amount of patches and tweaks will give Ryzen the performance crown. All they can do is give really good price/performance which is what AMD has had to reside themselves too. Right now though AMD is giving Intel a butt whooping in the 8 core productivity market given their most expensive 8 core is $500 less than Intels.
  10. I suppose so. Like I mentioned, I forgot where I read it...but it was mentioned boards should be coming in stock soon. The main reason I replied was just to link to the Asus Crosshair thread because if you ordered the Crosshair I was just making sure you were aware they have the issue with their bricked boards fixed and to update the bios to the one mentioned in that thread.
  11. The boards are on a boat atm. The first run was a limited supply flown in by air. Vendors should be getting stock in soon. I forgot where I read this, but I think it was in part due to the Chinese New Year. Asus has their bios situation fixed now, btw. http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread
  12. I would say the 1700 or the 1700X by leaps and bounds. They are really the best overall CPUs to buy period atm (except for gaming primarily then the 7700K is best). Even Intel's 6900K and up look silly when you consider price. According to Kyle from [H], the 1700X and 1800X are only binned for voltage...not speed. So keep that in mind as well. The guys at Crit TV got their 1700X to 4ghz with 1.33v
  13. Just for reference....while I do have 7700k that runs well with low voltage (1.165v)...as well as lowering my VCCPLL OC to 1.15v vs the default 1.25v which helps with temps...my H100i V2 keeps my 7700K's game load temps in the mid 40s. Granted that is with stock clock of 4.5ghz of course. You could likely expect no worse with a 7600K with only 4 cores. If you want the 280 rad then go for it, but don't feel as though you have to.
  14. The H100i V2 is definitely the better buy. It will have no problem with a 7600K. The Kraken is X62 is way over priced and won't cool substantially better. It will simply because it is a 280 rad...but the extra $60 is not worth it for 6c or so. If RGB matters that much to you, then it definitely 'looks' better...but it doesn't really perform better. You could get a Corsair H115i or the new EVGA 280 for $30 less and both of those are 280 rads that perform equally.
  15. You may not have to...I was just saying that to be extra sure all the GFE files were removed. But if you downloaded the driver installer from geforce.com and run it, it will probably overwrite any pre-existing files anyway.
  16. Check my edited and updated post for a little more clarification. You're welcome. Hopefully that does the trick.
  17. Re-run DDU in safe mode and 'check' remove GeForce Experience in the options menu...then just download the driver from GeForce.com and install it that way..(manually) not through GFE. DDU probably removed some GFE files and it is malfunctioning with what is left over.
  18. Duke? As a UNC fan....I refuse to acknowledge it That is an interesting design from them though. Maybe they will go away from the red/black theme to make RGB color coordination easier on future iterations of their Gaming line as well.
  19. Dropping to 1.419mhz is probably just the power saving feature of the chip. You need to check your load speeds and load temps to see if it is running too warm. You need to list your voltages as well so someone familiar with AMD can help you.
  20. Yeah...it is ok I think. It can run Cinebench at 5.1ghz with 1.4v or so. I have one core that likes to run 4c-6c cooler than the others. No matter how I adjust voltage settings it always ends up the same. Every once in a while it may end up 2c-3c cooler than the others..but just that one is like that. The other three are 1c-2c separated at worse. I go back and forth between running stock with low volts and overclocking because Gigabytes LLC drives me nuts. It is terrible. In the next month or so if they don't fix it with their next bios release I am going to get the Maximus IX Hero. I prefer adaptive voltage/clocks overclocking because I don't see the need to run the cpu at max speed and max volts all the time. Speed Shift 2.0 has a 10ms response time so performance doesn't suffer. Overall I think it is a better way. Gigabyte just does not have a firm grasp on this method as of yet though.
  21. Looking at that voltage...I would say done12many2 may have drunk12many2 Good to see your results man. I am putting of de-liding as a last resort..though I know sooner or later I am going to do it as well. For all the hate that Kabylake gets at times...it is still amazing to me I am stable at 4.5gzh at 1.175v and it takes Skylake cpus 1.35v or so to get there. Even though ipc is the same...Intel did manage to optimize the core well. Just too bad they gimped the tim.
  22. Even still, a net 2-3 minute redering gain (guesstimate) over a 10 hour workday (one 15 minute video a day) is still not worth worrying about.
  23. I'm not sure why you bother personally. The 5820K should be able to make up most of the difference with overclocking...which on a 5820K is actually possible. You already admit the improvement would be marginal at best. You would be much better served waiting for the Kaby Lake-E refresh of Skylake-E next year imho....or Zen+. An 1800X makes zero sense anyway. If you want a Ryzen chip...get the 1700 and overclock it to 3.8ghz on all cores.
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