ANNIHILATOR284

Just now, Name Taken said:

Don't transfer over the network so either connect the 6TB HDD to the NAS or the NAS drives to your desktop. Connecting the NAS will be easier as FreeNAS supports NTFS so it should be a simple copy/paste.

that would've been my first option but unfortunately i cannot predict when the thing will hang up on me again. and to connect the drives onto my windows machine, windows does not natively support zfs and i doubt it will detect the Z-pools either. thank you!

So here's the deal and before you tell me anything i know the risk i took while picking out this configuration  but the money was tight. i have a FreeNAS box wiht 4TB of storage (2x 2TB ZFS pools) with it's primary function of being a PLEX server. i'm running it on an i3-4150, gigabyte H81M-S mitx motherboard and 16Gb(2x8gb) of DDR3 (corsair vengeance) RAM.

since about 5-6 months there was an issue where the NAS box woulg just freeze! go off the network grid, unresponsive, if there are any transfers going on would stop mid way yet the drives would still be spinning and all the lights and stuff would be acting normal. times comes and i buy a 6TB WD red hoping to move all the data onto this and run the 2Tb drives on raid 1 to finally get some redundancy game on. I mount the HDD onto my windows machine, boot my nas box up after a week of down time fearing another "crash" about 20GB down it's freezes up again. i was hoping to get all data out and reinstall everything hoping it would all be fixed. now it's not feasible to get 20gb out, wait for 24hrs for it to start responding again ( no turning it off and on again does not help, you HAVE to give it a good 24 hrs irrespective of the number of restarts for it to respond) and get another 20gb out. it would take me years before i can get it all out. 

Is there anyways i can mount the drives on my windows machine it self (the 2 2Tb pools) and get the data out and safe?

I'M DESPERATE!!! and not the forget DUMB for taking this risk.

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I would've gone the Intel way

You also need supported content to not have black vars

My gpu, everything else runs on high octane 

nvidia does not support sli for a reason. with a 1070 it's just not worth it to go sli. you could've gone for a 1080. and unless you running 4k i doubt that a single 1070 will be insufficient 

i suggest get an extra buck and got for a samsung 850evo or a 950evo

as long the gpu runs on pci-e slot (99.99999999999999999999999999% of gpus do) and as long as your motherboard has a pci-e slot ( which it does as you were running a 970 in it) you're all good

it should work just fine plus i doubt you'll ever use that cup holder of yours (cd/dvd drive)

driver update should do. just in case to be sure, have you tried a different cable?

any sort of cooling solution apart from air or water comes under the exotic cooling category and there aren't many options in that area as most of them have be explored and 99% of them aren't feasible. so yeah. you stuck with not a lot

i'd love to get a laptop let alone a blade. hope i win and congratulations to who ever that will win.

18 minutes ago, Captain_WD said:

Hopefully the new PSU solved it. Try to put the system under heavy load for quite a while so you are sure the issue is solved. 

Post back if you have other issues or questions

 

Captain_WD.

absolutely. Thank you for all the help. 

On 8/19/2016 at 4:37 PM, Captain_WD said:

That's rather strange. Try using the computer a bit without the GPU and see if there are ANY sort of problems at all. Continue using the system for a while. If there are no crashes then you should be able to safely narrow things down the the GPU and its connectivity. 

Taking the motherboard and the GPU to a technician or calling the motherboard's manufacturer or GPU manufacturer support can also give you some ideas on how to resolve this.

 

Try testing the system with another GPU and see if the same problems occur!

 

Captain_WD. 

new update and this might be it. i got a new psu (cooler master v650 fully modular) and just hooked it up. tried playing a little tomclancy rainbow six siege and also tha kombustor prime95 combo and....... it didnot go boom (fingers crossed it won't).

either ways i'll test it for a day or so and if the problem seems to be gone i shall mark it solved.

Just now, ANNIHILATOR284 said:

this is going to be my primary backup location for time being (99% media but still in terabytes)

main purpose is also  to act as a plex media server.

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

People have used zfs and non-ecc for years. It works, but it significantly less safe. Unfortunately you are not going to find quantitative answers anywhere with respect to how much less safe. If you have a remote backup solution I wouldn't worry too much about it.

this is going to be my primary backup location for time being (99% media but still in terabytes)

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

Yes, you can. Although it's a bit odd sometimes. I would go to freenas.org forums and talk to the people there about it to confirm (don't mention your hardware btw, they will get fixated on it and never answer the actual question of the data migration.)

 

I'm not sure how extending a mirror would work...

 

alright that is all i wanted to know. the problem will zfs and ecc is left unsolved though, i can't find an exact answer to it anywhere. see if you can. ty

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

I used a scratch drive to temp house the data. With ZFS you don't want to operate at anything more than say 70% capacity (ideally more like sub-40%), so you should hopefully have plenty of other drives available to house the data for the hour or two they are needed to format zfs.

 

You can't do it online though, as bringing the drives into the ZFS partition (just like it does on every file system with a reformatting), wipes the drive.

what if i find a way to house the data and once the pool has been made and i've transfered the data into the pool will i be able to add a 3rd drive without wiping the other 2 (expanding storage i mean) (you get the idea right?)

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

People are always going to scream at you with using non-ecc ram, and I understand why, but I don't know how often it actually causes issues. The rebuild process should only take a few hours with two drives, and should be relatively foolproof in a mirror arrangement.

 

I can't say I particularly recommend use of that old of hardware, but it will probably be fine.

i understand your concern but this is my first nas of many to come. the only reason i'm sticking to old parts for now is due to financial restrictions.

another question: how to i move all my data from my existing 2tb green to my storage pool in my nas without moving data around. keep in mind i have to use that drive in my nas aswell.

Hello!

Although i haven't built it yet and i'm on my way to go buy few parts i would like the community to rate and comment on my freeNAS build before i finish it. if there is anything that you feel is wiered or out of place or just plain won't work do let me know.

I am planning to run freenas on it and another issue i have is my hardware does not support ECC memory and zfs at raidz does not handle non ECC memory well. if i hit a problem how long will it take to hit and how bad will it be? (running out of a 32gb pendrive)

FYI this is my first ever NAS box that i'm building from old used and new parts. upgrades are imminent. Comments below and please let me know if any. ty

Mobo: Asus P7H55-mlx (used)

CPU: intel core i5-650 (used)

RAM: 8gb kingston hyperx fury (new)

PSU: corsait gs700 (used)

HDD: 1x 2tb wd green (used) 1x 2tb wd green/red (new)

NIC: intel proo/1000 MT dual port gigabit nic (new)

COOLER: intel stock cooler (used)

On 8/19/2016 at 4:37 PM, Captain_WD said:

That's rather strange. Try using the computer a bit without the GPU and see if there are ANY sort of problems at all. Continue using the system for a while. If there are no crashes then you should be able to safely narrow things down the the GPU and its connectivity. 

Taking the motherboard and the GPU to a technician or calling the motherboard's manufacturer or GPU manufacturer support can also give you some ideas on how to resolve this.

 

Try testing the system with another GPU and see if the same problems occur!

 

Captain_WD. 

alright! it's been almost a day but the pc seems to be stable without the gpu in. but it still keeps crashing when i run prime95 and kombustor at once. might change the powersupply and try again. thankyou! will keep you posted.

2 minutes ago, ANNIHILATOR284 said:

tried running msi kombuster and prime 95 to artificially induce a gaming environment and BAM! crashed. 

MSI kombustor was set at 1080p with 4x anti aliasing and prime95 was set at smal FFTs. 
it did not crash at 720p 4x anti aliasing

also i'm running dual monitor setup (1 HDMI, 1 DP) if that helps at all

20 minutes ago, ANNIHILATOR284 said:

Continue using the system for a while. If there are no crashes then you should be able to safely narrow things down the the GPU and its connectivity.

interesting update. with the GPU off the rig, i tried running msi kombuster and prime 95 to artificially induce a gaming environment and BAM! crashed. 

just found out a friend of mine with same specs different gpu is also having the same issue.

could it be the power supply as mine had gone through 5-10 power cuts a day for a year and it's a 4 year old power supply and my friend has frequent voltage fluctuations.