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Yes, but my concern is the possible unsuccessful bios update that could corrupt the bios or windows and make the board useless, that's extra cost to fix/replace it that could go into a useful upgrade or generation jump.

I did think about the 5700X or 5800X as well, but for work even the 5800X is just halfway between the 2700X and 5900X and the 5900X is at good price currently. The 5800X3D is the same price as 5900X so it's really a choice between gaming or productivity there. I was mostly weighing the positives and negatives between upgrading to 5900X or jumping to 7900X. What I've concluded so far If upgrading to 5900X: + double the performance (work) for a good price + leaves enough budget room for 64/128gb RAM (also useful for work) - (As I found out) Possibly a bios update can cause windows to break and in one example someone was unable to even reinstall windows (on a TUF X470) or it can - cause windows to deactivate and seemingly make it a problem to reactivate Or if I go for a jump to 7900X + huge performance boost overall (and especially for work) + jump to a new generation (besides a possible CPU upgrade in the next 2-3 years it's a jump from PCIE 3.0 to 4.0 so the M.2 and RX7800XT wouldn't be bottlenecked by 3.0) - assured deactivation of windows (hopefully not creating any problems, it's really not the time to reinstall and set everything up again) - more expensive

Actually I made a mistake, 2409 isn't the newest update for TUF B450 Pro Gaming but it's the first one to support Ryzen 5000 while the latest is 4401. The 2409 is from December 2020. so it should be safe. Thanks!

Most stuff I do benefits from more cores, but of course 7900X is better all around for a platform jumping price

Primarily for work (2D/3D renders, 3D modelling, simple video editing), gaming as well but it's lower priority. The 7900X is definitely a better choice for both due to far better single core perf. but as I mentioned it's still a new platform full of problems and it's also a lot more expensive, so the performance increase doesn't follow the price increase compared to an AM4 upgrade (while jumping to AM5 should mean another few generations of upgrades).

Planning on upgrading, first (cheaper) choice is changing my Ryzen 7 2700X for a Ryzen 9 5900X, second (expensive) switching to Ryzen 9 7900X. Does the newest version (2409) support Ryzen 2700X? A thread on Reddit says 2000 runs on it, but double checking if there are possible problems not mentioned there. I don't want the update to fail and ruin the board. All it says on the 2409 update is "1. Update AGESA version to ComboV2PI 1.2.0.B 2. Update AMD 5000/3000 Series CPU fTPM version, please back up Bitlocker recovery key before updating this version BIOS." While if I go for the 7900X and TUF Gaming B650 Plus I'd still rather update the bios due to the possible frying of Ryzen 9s on Asus motherboards, but at least it has a USB flash option and it's just the 7000 series on it currently Also an additional question, what are thoughts on jumping to 7000 right now with all the problems vs doing a cheaper upgrade in my case from 2700X to 5900X? And yes I'm specifically aiming for 5900X (5950X costs a lot more than the performance difference) as it's primarily for work and gaming comes second (also the 5800X3D costs the same as the 5900X here, so it's a simple choice choosing between a work CPU and gaming CPU). For less than half the price of a 7000 jump (7900X + TUF B650 Plus + 32GB DDR5) you get 5900X + 64GB DDR4 (even going for 128GB would be around half the price).

About 95C where it won't fry itself especially during summer Just watched a vid from Tech Yes City undervolting a 7950X, but he used Ryzen Master instead of going into bios, does it make any difference or any pros and cons for doing it through the app?

So even without an undervolt or temp limit it should be fine? First idea was to upgrade to 5900X as a cheaper upgrade on AM4 so the PS120SE was a choice for that one, but found an ok price for 7900X + TUF B650 so weighing in the options. Of course if I can get it stable and maybe a limit to 85-90C that'd be great, I assume how far you can undervolt differs from cpu to cpu?

Is the Phantom Spirit 120 SE capable of cooling the 7900X under multi core workload? Some tests conclude that most air coolers can't keep the 7900X under 95C while others recommend coolers like the Dark Rock 4 Pro and AK620 and the PS120SE seems to be close to them in cooling performance overall.

I'm leaning more towards the TUF from the start, as good as the Nitro+ performs since the TUF has a better build quality, better cooling (as some test show there's a 10C degree difference between the TUF and Nitro+ 7800XT which can make the difference between working hot and thermal throttling during summer) I feel it's a safer choice. Also I'm an Asus fan so unless the Nitro+ price drops by a lot I'll probably go for the TUF I thought about the 5800X3D, regular 5800X, 5950X and 5900X and for work the 5900X seems like the best choice since it's a lot cheaper than the 5950X while not performing nearly as less as it costs, but it also performs better where I need it than the 5800X3D (and 5800X) while being just 10 euros more at most. I also thought about a 7800X3D or 7900X/7950X but besides being more expensive since they're newer it would also cost me a lot (about 3-4 times more) to switch from AM4/DDR4 to AM5/DDR5 so it'll probably be when 9000 or 10000 (or whatever they number them) is out.

That's why my choice is down to Asus vs Sapphire, had a great experience with everything from Asus over the years and Sapphire has been AMD's top quality partner for so long and specifically the Nitro+ seems very solid.

1440p 60hz not planning on switching to 4k anytime soon, the 7800XT seems to handle it without a problem and even 4K in some cases. I thought about going for the 7900XT but even the reference models cost a lot more than TUF or Nitro+ 7800XTs while Asus, Sapphire or MSI 7900XTs are almost twice the price. Aside from costing more than the extra power and VRAM it brings, I'm looking to fit a Ryzen 9 5900X (it's primarily for work, gaming shouldn't be a problem) but all that brings the need for a new cooler and a new PSU etc.

Planning an upgrade, my original choice was the TUF RX7800XT (upgrading from a Strix RX480 OC) and I prefer Asus overall, but the Sapphire Nitro+ seems to be another great option (and it's a similar price more or less depending on the store). Looking at tests the performance is similar (haven't found a direct comparison between the 2 from a single source), biggest differences I've noticed are the temperatures - Nitro+ around 63C while gaming and TUF around 57C while gaming from the same source - and the TDP difference stated on Versus.com - Nitro+ 288W vs TUF 263. Besides that, probably the most important difference (for me) is the case fan header, the Nitro+ has one and the TUF doesn't (currently using a case fan connected to the GPU since the Strix 480 has 2 headers for case fans). If I missed any differences feel free to point them out! I'm looking to hear thoughts and experiences if someone used either of the 2 versions or in general how this generation of TUF and Nitro+ compare in terms of cooling and overall quality. It's a GPU that should (hopefully) last 4-5+ years so I'd prefer going with the better quality one that can handle everyday use and probably high temps during summer (for reference, my current Strix RX 480 OC goes up to 80-86C during summer due to weather, otherwise it stays around 55-65C at 100%). Also interested how TriXX compares to GPU Tweak, especially for controlling case fans. Thanks in advance.

I'm looking into an upgrade as well, 99% chance I'm going with an RX7800XT which (currently) rivals the 4070 and seems to perform great on 1440p (also using 1440p). I don't know how it's price compares where you live, here it's around 40-50 euros difference between the cheapest 6800 and 7800XT, but also for example the TUF 6800XT is around 40 euros more than the TUF 7800XT so it seems like a better choice.

That's what confused me, I read that the 5900X can go up to around 142W stock so I didn't give it a second thought with the TUF B450. I'm sure OC'ed drawing up to 200+W would fry the board quickly. I do have room for 2x 140mm above the board, though it would create a lot of pressure keeping the air in since only one 120mm would be an exhaust in the rear. Unless the rear top fan was exhaust and forward top was intake and maybe somewhat follow the airflow of the CPU fans pushing rearward, or it's just a stupid idea Aren't the 7000 Ryzen chips with the offset cores? Or did I miss something on the 5900X?