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Phew! Thank you so much

Thanks for the reply. So should I not be worried this is happening with the 'defaults'? Does it indicate an issue somewhere? Even though I have my solution, I'm concerned something else might be wrong.

Hey, I just built my new workstation (specs at end) and noticed the CPU was running kinda hot while idle. ~55c. And peaked 80c quickly just by booting into Windows. After a lot of troubleshooting thinking it was the cooler or maybe even faulty RAM, I was running out of ideas. It's a totally fresh build and using the motherboard's optimized defaults and updated the BIOS. I eventually saw while in the BIOS the CPU voltage was at 1.4v at idle. So I then changed the 'EZ System Tune' in the BIOS from 'Normal' to 'ASUS Optimal', and the voltage went down to 1.0v and temps to 34c. Also worth noting the CPU came pre-installed to the motherboard. I figured I'd just check it was ok and found a bent pin. CBA to RMA, so just bent it back myself. Nothing broke, but thought it should be mentioned... Two questions really: 1. Is 1.4v at idle normal with default settings? 2. Is 'ASUS Optimal' the correct solution? Thanks! Specs: Ryzen 9 5950x ASUS TUF Gaming x570-Pro (WiFi) 64GB (2x 32) 3200 Corsair Vengeance Kraken x63 Founders 3090 Corsair HX Plat 1000W PSU

Maybe. I guess some options feel tantalisingly close. Even if not perfect, there's still room for improvement with smallish increase in cost. eg: MBP - add WiFi 6 and touchsceen XPS - better QC, maybe better speakers. SL3 - better screen + TB3 Just those changes would probably be enough to avoid my rant!

Doesn't make it good though... All taller aspect does it give you more, not take away.

Why? There are tiers of quality the entire way from Value to Premium. Why not have Ultra Premium?

I don't think it needs collaboration. Each company just needs to polish what they have an extra step. Up the price for all I care. If it has everything, it's fair that it costs more.

It does look good, but I'm not sure I can class it as ultra portable. I'd happily lose a bit of the graphics performance for some thinness. I guess it's a different category really.

Not true. MBP, Surface Laptop 3 and XPS all have taller screens. They are the 3 most popular ultra portable premium laptops out there.

Maybe. I just feel like the top competitors are all so close to getting it really, really right. It's frustrting!

I'm ok with that. Make it cost more if it's perfect!

16:9, no TB3, low resolution screen, slow RAM, slower CPU's Does look nice though...

I get that. But like I said, I'm talking about 13" ultra portables. Not workstations. And while yeah, everyone's idea of perfect is different, I'm not asking for things which are really controversial in this category. Just the best bits from all other laptops.

That's not a laptop though It's important for laptop ergonomics for where the palm of your hands rest. Also more of an issue with 13" panels, taller screens just make way more sense at that size On a desktop, yeah. Ultrawide all the way.

Ok - before you lose your nut. I'm specifically talking about a thin and light, like XPS 13 or MBP 13, etc. All the top tier laptops have gotchas. And sure, I see that compromises need to be made, but the things I'd like to see in one laptop seem perfectly doable to me. It's a combination of what already exists in other laptops: MBP's screen but with touch MBP or Surface speakers Surface Laptop webcam/mics Surface Laptop's keyboard (subjective) XPS slim bezels Windows Hello (face unlock) Thunderbolt 3 WiFi 6 Non-soldered rapid storage Good software support. Apple/Microsoft's QC and support. It doesn't exist, and I feel like it could do. Some come close. I have the XPS 13 2-in-1. It's almost all of those things, but I'm not happy with it. QC on this thing feels like a naked mole rat built it. And their Support is a joke. Tighten up the QC, make the speakers not sound like trash at low volume. Remove the terrible audio software. Give the keyboard a little more travel and remove the pg up/dn by the arrow keys. Plus a couple of other bits, then it's about as good as it gets. Other laptops have 16:9 displays, which are too wide, imo. I'm looking at you, Razer. The Macbook Pro would be soooo good if it ran at a good temps, had a touchscreen and WiFi 6 (and Windows lol). The Surface Laptop 3's screen is sub-par in many ways. Too much glare, not bright enough, needs more colour accuracy, thick bezels. Has no TB3. Storage also seems to be on the slower side, though forgivable as you can upgrade it yourself. ...the list goes on. Why? I'm sure it can be done. And when someone does it, I'll be first in line to buy. Just my 2 pennies.