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Really? I knew most recent Intel chips were pretty incremental but didn't realize they were that close in performance so might be worth checking out. Only trouble is I barely know about b250/z270 chipsets, and pretty much all the ones before it are a mystery to me. I know they won't support Optane but would any have USB 3.1 type C? NVMe? M.2? Looks like I've got some research to do

Assuming I could get my hands on a mITX Ryzen motherboard, this is more along the lines of what I would build. Unfortunately I don't know how readily available they'll be when I go to buy everything. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Biostar - X370GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg) Storage: *ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($57.88 @ OutletPC) Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.13 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC) Total: $758.74 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-08 12:56 EDT-0400

I don't really live in an area that has the best market for used computer hardware. Video cards are actually pretty common but trying to find a CPU newer than 2013 is pretty difficult, let alone a whole CPU/RAM/Motherboard combo. Most fully built systems are around that age too or overpriced Fallout 4 and Alien Isolation both have been in my steam library since last year but can't be launched until I have new hardware. I may keep my old tower but I wouldn't put any valuable parts in it, after 8 years and lots of abuse I'm just waiting for something to let out the magic smoke.

Not from my point of view. Truth be told the Pentium/1050ti combo will probably knock my socks off, I'm coming from the first set of cards that nVidia put the GTX before the numbers rather than after so it won't take much to impress me. At least for me, I wouldn't have a need for a new GPU until decide to buy more/better monitors. Also I am in need of a new build, as I mentioned mine is probably not long for this world.

Eventually I'll use most of the board. It has enough USB ports for me to be comfortable versus the 4 I've seen on some other boards, I eventually want to give Optane a shot, and when I swap out for something along the lines of a i5-7600k I'll make full use of the overclocking ability. I'd love Ryzen but I need to find a microATX case that I like. I'm all aboard the SFF hype train right now and mini-ITX Ryzen boards are too scarce. I have a notion to re-purpose the parts I replace. Drop the Pentium, 1050, and 8GB RAM into a cheap case/motherboard combo and I've got myself a halfway decent media center or casual gaming box in the living room. Plus, I probably wouldn't upgrade anything until like 6+ months out. If this can handle 1080p without a problem then I'll have no reason to for a good long time. I do see where you're coming from though, it doesn't make sense to buy a cheap CPU then toss it.

tl;dr: PC dying, need cheap gaming pc soon. parts list and reasoning at bottom. I first posted about a new build on here a couple months ago, but life quickly decided to throw a couple curveballs and both working towards a new computer (and these forums - sorry! ) went on the backburner. Things have changed a bit now and not only is it much more feasible but its also inevitable. I built my first proper gaming PC 8 years ago, and unfortunately Old Faithful is finally ready to give up the ghost. Some may call me crazy but that is the build I'm currently typing this post on as well as attempting to play games. Sadly, however, I can't ignore the signs of the coming reaper anymore. Uncomfortably toasty GPU temps despite a dust-free cooler, a disconcertingly increasing amount of disk S.M.A.R.T. errors, and quirks like USB devices randomly disconnecting are just a few of the death knells I've seen. Although I'm working with tight constraints on both time and budget, I think I've put together something reasonable for not having built a system in nearly a decade. I have two main goals and I think I've hit them well, but I'd like some input before I pull the trigger. First and foremost, I need something in my budget ($850 max but lower is better, USD). The rig will be mostly be used for gaming of all sorts with just a little bit of coding and light VM work on the side, mainly to tinker with Linux distros; also I don't really do any streaming or content creation. On top of that I'd like the design to be more "small form factor" and less "monolith from 2001." My desk setup consists of a single 1080p 60hz monitor and thus doesn't require a lot of horsepower, so I had an idea. I'll be as lowball as I can on the more expensive components (i.e. CPU, GPU, SSD) and put most of the budget towards a foundation that I can upgrade down the line. Here's the parts list in its current form: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: EVGA - Z270 Stinger Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($153.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($73.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Kingston - HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($56.99 @ Amazon) Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.13 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($132.89 @ OutletPC) Total: $798.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-08 12:08 EDT-0400 CPU: Pentium G4560 - dirt cheap 7th gen chip, and can seem to handle 1080p gaming until I can throw an unlocked i5 or i7 in GPU: GTX 1050 Ti - like the CPU, everything can find says its the best price-performance for 1080p mobo: EVGA Stinger has all the features I want, including ability to overclock a K series chip Case & PSU: I'm in love with the look and design of the Enthoo Evolv and the PSU is punching way above its class in this current config. HDD: Filter (1TB/72kRPM/under or around $50) - won't be fastest or highest quality but if it works that's fine SSD: Any 120GB+ SSD around $60 will do but the filter didn't play nice with this one, and I won't be bogged down by a sluggish cheap mechanical boot drive. RAM: Vengance LPX 8GB DDR4-3000 - should be enough for now, and can easily be swapped for a 16GB+ kit down the road if needed Thoughts? This is my first attempt at a build in nearly 8 years aside from just browsing so I'm open to any feedback.

Could be worse, you could be running Vista *shudders* I'd be more concerned about my AMD hardware shitting the bed on its own

Whenever you're working with technology, there's bound to be something that just gets on your nerves. Along the way you run into something that makes the blood boil... or maybe just a minor nuisance. So let's hear it - what really grinds your g̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ fans? I'll start - I'm currently working on a fresh Windows install dual booted with some variation of Linux. Trouble is, seeing as how I haven't upgraded my computer since 2008, everything is being done via USB 2.0. Even installing Windows is on an 8gb flash drive that peak at, oh, 5mbps. On top of that the Windows installer is having trouble using the drives I'm telling it to, and each restart takes about 10-15 mins. Argh! Alright, /rant over. Your turn

GDRRiley are you talking about installing it from a live USB/DVD or can it be installed from inside Windows?

I have a hard ebough time trying to install Linux the first way, if going backwards is trickier then I better avoid it.

So I'm currently in the proccess of backing up all my data for a fresh install of Windows 10... dual booting with Linux. I havent decided on the final distro yet (although I'm leaning towards Mint) and as such dont know what the boot loader will be, but I was wondering about the order I should go in. I planned on installing Windows first and using the whole drive, then shrinking the partition when I install Linux since there wont be any data I have to worry about losing. Trouble is I only want, say, 100-200GB for Windows and would have the rest be available for Linux. However, since I have a 1.5 TB RAID array to work with would it make more sense to only give Windows what it needs then install Linux onto the empty space? Or should I maybe start with Linux and do Windows 2nd? I'm lost :3 Apologies in advance if in fact it makes absolutely no difference which way I go about it, I'm pretty inexperienced with Linux. Honestly thats why I'm doing this entire project in the first place - I learn best by just jumping headlong into something like this. Thanks in advanve

Thanks for the advice! As for the peripherals yes I do need to upgrade those as well (logitech G500 mouse and a Dynex multimedia Keyboard) I don't plan to spend much on them so I'm keeping them out of the budget for now. Could re-use my power supply (Corsair 850w) and case (Antec 1200) but in all honesty I'd rather build from the ground up. This power supply has been running for years, I don't want it to fail and take a shiny new GPU or CPU with it.

No particular games in mind, just want something that can play modern games at a decent framerate (I'm currently running a single 1080p monitor, definitely a fan of the big curved monitors available now but it's almost the cost of an entire build). The most 'recent' games I played were Battlefield: Hardline and Bioshock Inifinite at mostly high settings and I struggled to stay above 30fps. I haven't bothered to buy new games because I know at the moment I won't be able to run them. Don't 'need' a new system but have the budget for one and have been itching to build a new computer for a while. Like I said, budget is in the $1000-1500 USD range but the lower the better (located in USA).

Hello LinusTechTips forums! Been a long time fan of LTT on YouTube and figured I'd join the community and see what it's all about. So anyway, here's my dilemma. Years ago I was in the loop on what CPUs were best, how to pick out a perfect power supply for your build, which GPUs could play games better than others, and so on. Now, when I say 'years ago' I mean just that - this was back when Core 2 Duo was mind-blowing and a nVidia was still putting the cards' number BEFORE the letters (8800GTX, 7800GT, so on and so forth). Fast forward to early 2016, and I am seriously in need of an upgrade to my rig. Games from a even few generations ago are starting to get unplayable and modern AAA titles are just out of the equation. So basically my question is this - can someone give me the lowdown on what's 'good' nowadays? It used to be just clock speeds and framerates, but now with different 'xyz-sync' technologies for video cards and things I can't even wrap my head around for CPUs I don't know where to begin - I don't even know what the current sockets are for mainstream consumer AMD or Intel CPUs (On top of that, are 12v rails for power supplies still a thing? I remember having to check the amp loads per rail for PSUs and balance them just to make sure they'd power my video card ) I'm looking for something that will last me a good few years, just like my current build did.* Either advice on where computer technology is nowadays OR a build suggestion (in the $1000-1500 price range) would be very much appreciated! * Here's what I'm currently playing games, watching LTT/channelsuperfun/etc..., and surfing the web on: AMD Phenom II x4 940 (3.0 GHz base OC'd to 3.4) 8GB DDR2 800 GTX 285 Black Edition 2x 750gb sataII HDs in raid 0 1x 64gb SSD boot drive (this was the only upgrade to my system I've made in the past 7 years) 850w single +12v rail power supply Thanks in advance! (P.S.: if this thread belongs in a different board I apologize, this seemed like the logical place)