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Why I'm confused revsilverspine? Latest GPU's use HD texture support and at the same time they increase their onboard memory.. wich could indicate that more detailled textures use up more space and that having a bigger buffer could keep your performance in the safe zone... But I understand getting a card with enough Vram should handle the job just fine

This is what I like about this forum, the more you open your mouth.. the smarter you become Thanks for the update guys 'n girls.

More ram when using more mods, isn't that an indication that better graphics use more memory?

And what if you have a memory leak? I've maxed out my memory a few times online just because of bugs on websites, same happened to me before in some games. Wouldn't it be better to have more RAM in this case?

Dunno if he does, but the problem with most testers is that they always go through the traditional methods wich "ignore" certain performance. The only way to realy know the performance is to be in dense area's and test max frames over a longer period of time.

I guess you are a nice and tidy user then... When I'm in windows with all my apps open (without any broswer open) I allready use 3.5GB of Ram, with my apps in firefox that will become 5GB and while gaming up to 8GB. Believe it or not but a lot of us aren't tidy

The diffirence is indeed hard to notice eventhough its there, but its still better overall... especialy when your doing heavy tasks. See it this way.. if you put 16GB in your system you'll be future proof for a couple of years, but after that... having had more memory wouldn't have made you notice any performance loss. I guess it depends on what you want.. Do you want your system to tell you when its time to upgrade, or do you want it to stfu and die (after you don't need it anymore). Sure you could buy more ram lateron.. but you'd be missing out on some frames in the meanwhile.. I guess it all depends on how easily you are satisfied. But knowing 32GB memory from crucial costs less then 32GB of any brand, and the fact that higher busrate doesn't mean much in performance... buying those modules lateron wouldn't necessarily make them less expensive in the end... But as said, it all depends on what type of CPU you use and how you want it to work. After having had my system 5 years in a row, I guess I've gotten to the point where everything has to be perfect when buying a new pc

Thats typical reasoning, but the speed Ram gives doesn't rely on how much you are using. Just look at SSD disks wich are memory related too, the more memory you leave free, the more responsive the disk is. Fill it up and your performance goes down. It's the same story for ram.. keep in mind, pc's are known for their hidden bottlenecks, how little they might seem.. it all matters slightly... and "not much" still counts.

For those that think having more RAM doesn't matter in games, and yes going from 8 to 16GB gives more fps overall, and going from 16GB to 32GB can add a little to it aswell due to less stress on the cpu (some gpu's actualy use your system memory too) . You might say "more memory is too expensive for the performance you gain from it" and then I say "think again" Just look at this and then look at any 16GB modules, they'll actualy cost you more in comparison http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-PC4-19200-BLS4K8G4D240FSA-BLS4C8G4D240FSA/dp/B00MTSWMV6

Awsome, thanks for the update. If someone else can confirm this I'll be realy convinced (I'm scared when it comes about money cuss I have enough to only take one shot at this...)

I read online that you can safely OC a 4820k to 4.4 or 4.5 using 1.36v (pref. under 1.3v), and by cooling it so it stays under 70°C. This should only take 2years off its life expectancy and it should still live about 8 years... is this correct? My goal is to use my system for 5 years. Please an update or a confirmation so I'll know what to do. I want to be future proof when it comes down to multitasking and directx 12 gaming.

I'm not into bluetooth as I'm highly sensitive to all kind of wireless signals (gives me migraine in a matter of seconds when turned on, especialy WIFI). Anyhow you do make a point when it comes to "children".. I can't recollect I ever put my system over 50% use... and usualy only 15-30% due to the children so I guess I had an expensive system wich I never realy fully used... even these current speakers seem to get better clarity if I turn them louder... but I can't cuss of the baby. So I guess I'll be going for the Z506 anyway. Thanks again for the help!

I actualy know what you are talking about.. I saw a benchmark where 3200hz DDR4 vs 2133hz actualy gave you 8fps extra in some games while in others it won't matter. That benchmark claims that memory improved gameplay on games that rely on the CPU more. Anyway, I'm not afraid to OC as long as you are fully certain I will not be raising it to a degree where it won't last 5 years. I'm thinking of going with a NH15 cooler btw.

I understand how funny that might sound because there's no such thing as "gaming" audio.. I basicly mean that I need a good surround system with clear sound that supports 5.1 or 7.1 and won't brake the bank like the S750 did years ago, can't believe I actualy payed for that rustbucket :'( Don't want that to happen to me again..

My wife has those, but are they the best out there? Would be suprised to hear that my very expensive speakerset is the only step up from my wife's Z506 system... Is there another one, better then Z506 that allows for the bass to manualy be lowered or shut off while the speakers keep working? The Z506 allows for you to do that but I'm wondering if there are more 5.1 & 7.1 systems that will allow it.