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Klingon00

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    Klingon00 got a reaction from Decon in Budget Gaming 8 Core System   
    THANK YOU! I came here just to point this particular bit out, as I just recently discovered when trying to install windows 10 home edition on an old dual xeon MacPro. Having to shell out $200 for a Pro Windows license to get full use of the hardware sort of takes the sparkle out of the $150 price point quoted. That said, for games, it probably matters very little, but would have been nice to have been at least mentioned in the video.
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    Klingon00 reacted to Decon in Budget Gaming 8 Core System   
    this build is so far from what I would ever recommend to someone for gaming that I really don't know where to start.  As a used hardware junkie (you can see that very well from my about me page) and an owner of dual Xeon and Opteron systems, I noticed a number of fallacies in this video.  To start, even using CAD not USD $150 is more than anyone should be paying for these components.   If I was recommending such a build to anyone, I most certainly would not go LGA 771; LGA 1366 offers hypethreading unlike 771 as well as PCIe 2.0 guaranteed (unless slots are running through DMI)  at a not much greater price.   Along with that buyers should keep in mind that the majority of power delivery solutions on LGA 771 systems utilized electrolytic capacitors, which even if maintained well, could very well be reaching the end of there functionality due to evaporating electrolytic compound, unbeknownst to the seller or the buyer.  On top of those issues Linus omitted any indication that a potential buyer would need to check not only that the motherboard supported LGA 771 CPU's, but also that there CPU's lithography and FSB are supported by the motherboard.  As for the CPU's, not only do you need matching SKU's, but for proper operation should have a matched stepping code and if possible should be only purchased as a matched pair.  Linus should also have noted that this dual CPU configuration does not behave as 8 cores in an OS/application; for the second CPU to be used at all the OS/application must also support Dual CPU, which unfortunately at least for windows 7, dual processor is not supported at all except on Pro and higher teir licenses.  In review, for the video to cause the least confusion possible I would have like Linus to note:
     
    LGA 771 components should be selected with care, only from reputable seller and if at all possible ensuring the motherboard is devoid of electrolytic capacitors. Dual CPU configurations need to not only be from the same model-number, but also have a matching stepping code and preferably be sold only as matched pairs. LGA 771 motherboards lack some key features that I have seen cause bottlenecks even on lower their expansion cards, including lower IPC than their lGA 1366 counterparts, lack of PCIe 2.0 in many cases (PCIe 1.0 WILL bottleneck graphics cards in many cases) along with other features. LGA 771 motherboards must be picked ensuring that they have support for the intended CPU's lithography and FSB clock. The system will not perform inherently like an 8 core system; in many cases (at least in windows 7) windows will completely refuse to recognize your second processor without you having a Pro or higher their windows license.  Applications that support 8 cores might also not necessarily run on a dual CPU setup without support. There is a high likelihood that NO GAME supports dual CPUs or ever will, which begs the question why would you go dual CPU when you could get an E5620 for $10 and have 4 cores/8 threads and have complete support for any multithread games down the line...
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