Dracula872100

Well I hope they fixed there old issues and I am sure they will give you great performance Have fun with the new cards And keep us updated if you can

I said MSI and gigabyte are the same when max overclocked with both reaching wonderful 1500~ MHz without any extra voltage And you can look at all benchmarks since I was looking everyday ever since release date and if you talk about factory OC then EVGA FTW is the highest but sadly a little to no headroom above the factory OC and it's less than both Giga and MSI max So if you think Gigabyte is better for you I really do hope they fixed there issues they do have wonderful benchmarks But I am sticking to my choice as it stands I am not waiting 6 months or a year to see if Giga fixed it and with no major advantages in buying it I still think MSI is the better option as it is much more reliable with same OC max and that is what's more important especially that both of them is well under 70 D at max and MSI have 0 fan (That I find cool for me since I never shut down my pc )

OK First off let me talk about your statement There is no doubt in my mind that EVGA is the best customer service and that's why I normally go with them Gigabyte customer service sux and I am glad you agree about that As for the rest MSI and Gigabyte are neck a neck in the overclocking department and that unlike in the 700 series gives you options Yes MSI might be a couple of degrees hotter but it still at max overclock you can reach without over voltage well under 70 degrees So yeah I agree that Giga is overclocked more at stock but they both have the same max at all review and benchmarks MSI not the best in customer service but there customer service isn't bad (slower than EVGA ) (Way faster and better than GIGA) So that's why I decided to go with MSI and not Gigabyte since I can overclock them both the same at the cost of a few degrees but I will have much better customer service and in my opinion much better materials and a smaller card Edit: As for the space you will have trouble with the SLI space with Gigabyte most of all And if you are going for SLI I would go with a smaller card and since you won't overclock that much in SLI go reference Asus MSI or of course EVGA And of course in the end it's up to you what you want to get I am just trying to help

Btw in the reviews you will see that the first review about the card talked about it dying after 2 months Another after a week Another after 4 months like I said not just me

I said that my experience with there fans were bad when more than one fan in the last series and with the amd r9 went dead and that's not just me Gigabyte might give the best results in theory and they might work great for a while but they always had trouble in long time use and that's not opinion and you can search what other people said about the 700 series fans I do hope they fixed there fan troubles whatever that was causing it before But so far no one tried it long enough to give you results that are long term based and as such I am talking about myself I won't risk it but when it comes to benchmarks there is denying that G1 is the best followed closely by MSI and then the others

And yeah Gigabyte were the best cooling in the latest series as well but ask people who got them and they will all tell you about the fans dying not long after getting them and that for me is a big thing not to mention it is the biggest card by far How can I delete a post I posted twice by accident

Woops I wrote these wrongly sorry I didn't mean to write quitter than the gigabyte as they are all the same in dB along with Asus I do see that in all benchmarks it's always between gigabyte and MSI as the best overclockers but like I said all my past experiences with Gigabyte were bad not to mention other people who talked about fans dying in the previous series as for MSI , EVGA , Asus I always had good time with them mostly EVGA since most my cards were EVGA But I did buy both Gigabyte MSI and ASUS cards in the past for myself and for friends Gigabyte I got in the 700 series and the fan died not long after the purchase thankfully I was able to return it and get EVGA but like I said MSI convinced me with there last card the most even if it is a little hotter because of the less fan and smaller space it takes I will take there materials over Gigabytes any time of the day and if it weren't for ASUS small overclocking headroom I would have gone with ASUS Normal choices for me 1.EVGA 2.ASUS 3.MSI So yeah MSI is never my top choice but this time it is as they did one really good card

Woops I wrote these wrongly sorry I didn't mean to write quitter than then gigabyte as they are all the same in dB along with Asus I do see that in all benchmarks it's always between gigabyte and MSI as the best overclockers but like I said all my past experiences with Gigabyte were bad not to mention other people who talked about fans dying in the previous series as for MSI , EVGA , Asus I always had good time with them mostly EVGA since most my cards were EVGA But I did buy both Gigabyte MSI and ASUS cards in the past for myself and for friends Gigabyte I got in the 700 series and the fan died not long after the purchase thankfully I was able to return it and get EVGA but like I said MSI convinced me with there last card the most even if it is a little hotter because of the less fan and smaller space it takes I will take there materials over Gigabytes any time of the day and if it weren't for ASUS small overclocking headroom I would have gone with ASUS Normal choices for me 1.EVGA 2.ASUS 3.MSI So yeah MSI is never my top choice but this time it is as they did one really good card

Ok the link somehow isn't working but there is a benchmark on youtube on max settings for shadow of mordor with 970 not even the 980 and you will see average fps of 73

My personal choice and what I normally do is that you get the sli 970 and when something newer in 2 gens or so comes out you again get the *70 card from it since it's normally best buck/performance out there and you won't lose much cash in the selling since it wasn't at the high end where you had to pay 100$ just for premium It worked for me since the 470 until today and never had to pay more than a 100$ every couple of years or so And I personally prefer the formula MB I think it was the coolest of the bunch

I was in the situation as you are in right now and after looking everywhere and checking all the benchmarks and all my recent history with VGA cards I decided to get the MSI gaming 4g According to almost all benchmarks it is the quietest and most overclockable card out there along with the Gigabyte G1 But it's smaller neater for SLI configuration Best cooling with Asus and gigabyte again but with passive cooling only with asus So in the end I had to decide between 3 brands EVGA MSI and Gigabyte since I didn't like the low overclock headroom in asus EVGA because every card I got that was EVGA was great but according to all benchmarks it overclocks like both MSI and the G1 but it works hotter and with much more noise and I have to say it doesn't look that good not normal EVGA standards that I used to expect Gigabyte I always had bad experiences with them and apparently it wasn't just me since a lot of people had many troubles with there fans dying in the 700 series and the R9 series I don't know if it's fixed yet but I won't take the chance MSI like the 2 of them overclocks as good runs a little bit hotter (1 to 2 degrees) than the G1 but runs quitter and I trust there materials way more than Gigabyte not to mention it's much smaller and looks way better and with the same overclock results as gigabyte So those are my thoughts on the matter and well it's up to you I just hope that I helped in some way

I was in the same shoes as you since the release and I have to say after looking everywhere and checking all benchmarks I can get my hands on to I decided to get the MSI gaming 4g For the following reasons According to almost all benchmarks it is the best over clocker out there along with The g1. Unlike the g1 it have passive cooling that I find pretty neat and it cools very good at the highest overclocks you can get Gigabyte had a lot of issues in there 700 series fans and that worries me unlike MSI I am kind of an EVGA fan and most of the time I go with EVGA but this time I have to say that MSI did one hell of a card that getting any other is a crime Asus cooling is great but all benchmarks gives shady overclock results with the card The only bad thing about the MSI is the back Plate and I don't mind that since they still have a heat pipe there to keep everything cool and it looks great without it anyway I just thought to share my thoughts to all of you out there because I had to read until my eyes hurt Oh and one last thing it's smaller than the Asus and The G1 as it takes less than 2 pci lanes while the rest takes 2 and the G1 is much longer so it will be way better for future sli