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    silveranstavern got a reaction from JoeyKaramazov in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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    silveranstavern got a reaction from JohnnyFALLEN in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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    silveranstavern got a reaction from qhyzix in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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    silveranstavern got a reaction from Str_Mape in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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    silveranstavern got a reaction from T.Vengeance in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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    silveranstavern got a reaction from Glenwing in On understanding Vessel...   
    First off, to address the misinformation out there....  They aren't switching, they are adding content to another platform early for the truly die hard fanatics that absolutely must consume their media the soonest it can become available.  The YouTube schedule shouldn't change to the best of my knowledge, and Vessel doesn't get dibs on everything being early access.  For instance, time sensitive reviews and videos will still release on Vessel and YouTube side by side, due to the nature of the video's (think product reviews that have blackout/gag orders prohibiting release until a certain date).  Otherwise, if it isn't time sensitive , Vessel will have the videos 3 days before YouTube for people who pay the modest fee of $2.99.  A portion of your fee goes directly to the content creators you watch.  Vessel will keep a small portion of it (I believe it is 40%, though I don't know) and pass the 60% of your subscription fee onto the content creators that you watch. So if you watch one-liners tech tips video and one Cyanide & Happiness video for the entire month (simplified to illustrate a point), then Linus tech tips would get $0.90 directly from you and your subscription. After which, they can opt to publish the video on other platforms (such as YouTube) and they will only earn 70% of ad revenues (but anyone can watch the videos at that point even on vessels website without a subscription). So in essence,  Vessel is asking for partial exclusivity for a short period of time on SOME of the videos released by Linus Media Group (completely under the control of LMG). They outlined all of this in the earlier blogs (Vessels blogs), and some of the terms and conditions may have changed, but that is my understanding of it.
     
    Additionally, they already plan to release an Android app (which was another point I heard frequently mentioned).

    Supporting clauses:
     
    "Vessel provides early access to the web’s best short-form creators for only $2.99 a month, enabling members to watch those creators’ videos and shows before they are available elsewhere for free. Creators offer their new videos exclusively on Vessel for a limited time, typically 72 hours, after which they are available for free on Vessel and anywhere else creators want to make them available (whether it’s on their own website, on YouTube or elsewhere)." Source
     
    "The Vessel experience was designed for mobile devices, which enable fans to snack on videos wherever and whenever they want. Today, we will invite users to try Vessel on iOS devices (iPhones and iPads) and on the web (all laptop and desktop computers). Soon, we’ll also release Vessel for Android devices. Our vision is to make Vessel accessible anywhere fans have an internet-connected screen, including gaming consoles, set-top boxes and smart TVs." Source
     
    "Early access on Vessel will be offered for only $2.99 a month, a low price made possible by incorporating a modest amount of advertising. For those not as interested in early access, we also have a free, ad-supported version of the service, where videos become available after their early access period.
      Vessel’s business model (subscription + advertising) will deliver unusually attractive economics for creators, allowing them to pursue their dreams and share ever more ambitious work with their fans. During the early access period on Vessel, we estimate that creators will earn approximately $50 for every thousand views (up to 20x the levels earned from free, ad-supported distribution). After Vessel’s early access period, creators will continue to earn money through distribution of their videos on the free, ad-supported web – on Vessel and anywhere else they choose. Free, ad-supported distribution plays an important role in the future of video, and we do not see that changing. Vessel was created to serve as a critical, missing piece of the puzzle for content creators, with Vessel playing one part among many that collectively help creators achieve their dreams." Source

     
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