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How much do GPUs wear/degrade second hand?

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Hi there,

 

I am looking at buying a "ASUS Dual GTX 1070 OC 8GB " GPU.

 

I currently have 2 options:

1st where someone used the GPU for gaming (100 hours of gameplay), or the 2nd versus 4 months of crypto mining.

 

Would it be worth paying $30 extra for the "100 hours of gameplay" one due to the intensive pressure the crypto mining one would have been put under?
 

I'm just wondering if it is worth getting the cheaper crypto one or not.

 

Thanks, 

Oli

 

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Honestly I'd pay the $30 extra. 4 months of crypto mining is quite a bit worse than 100 hours of gameplay. Please, don't buy the crypto mining card.

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11 minutes ago, TheKiwiColonel said:

Would it be worth paying $30 extra for the "100 hours of gameplay" one due to the intensive pressure the crypto mining one would have been put under?

Cards don't degrade after use, that's just stupid. Even Linus tested this in a video with a GTX 480. Buy whichever card is cheaper, in this case the one that was used for crypto mining.

8 minutes ago, 1kv said:

Honestly I'd pay the $30 extra. 4 months of crypto mining is quite a bit worse than 100 hours of gameplay. Please, don't buy the crypto mining card.

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Four months of mining would be approximately 3000 hours of heavy use so the 100 hour gaming card sounds like the much better deal.  

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8 minutes ago, AndeSandwich said:

Well, I don't think there would be a big performance difference but the 100-hour card will probably last longer.

Last longer? Please do some amount of research before saying random things. Tell me, why would the 100-hour card last longer?

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1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Cards don't degrade after use, that's just stupid. Even Linus tested this in a video with a GTX 480. Buy whichever card is cheaper, in this case the one that was used for crypto mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44JqNJq-PC0

GPU itself might not degrade performance wise but things like fans don't last forever. 

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1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Last longer? Please do some amount of research before saying random things. Tell me, why would the 100-hour card last longer?

I don't have to do research to give the OP my opinion on what card I would purchase.  

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in a sense, crypto folks are the better pick, because they are buying the card as an investment, and for an investment to pay off, its in their best interest to have it last as long as possible.

 

the idea of mining somehow degrading cards is pretty much nonsense.

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1 minute ago, Reznik said:

I don't have to do research to give the OP my opinion on what card I would purchase.  

sure, its your opinion, you're free to say what you want, and the people who did the research and consideration are also free to say why you're wrong ;)

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4 minutes ago, Reznik said:

GPU itself might not degrade performance wise but things like fans don't last forever. 

The fans will last longer than the OP will want to keep his/her card. A proper ball bearing fan can last quite some time.

2 minutes ago, Reznik said:

I don't have to do research to give the OP my opinion on what card I would purchase.  

At least back up your answer with proof.

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Just now, r2724r16 said:

The fans will last longer than the OP will want to keep his/her card. A proper ball bearing fan can last quite some time.

At least backup your answer with proof.

A 100 hour gsming card is basically brand new and very little use.  I still believe that to be the better deal when we are talking a about $30.  I've bought several mining cards myself, nothing wrong with any of them.  

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5 minutes ago, Reznik said:

I don't have to do research to give the OP my opinion on what card I would purchase.  

I still appreciate your input, thank you. But yes, it is good to know the research

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Just now, Reznik said:

I've bought several mining cards myself, nothing wrong with any of them. 

New or used?

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The only thing I could see is some very very very minor degradation of the VRM on the card but even then its up for debate specially since there is still cards from the early 2000's people are using for an industrial work environment and in schools in which the systems are normally one 24/7 unless power goes down. But still there is no 100% fact that a card that was "gamed on" vs mined on is gonna last longer. Clean the card, maybe replace the fans, fresh thermal paste and off you go.

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5 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

New or used?

Dunno about for him but my GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition is a mining card from eBay and its faster than @bcredeur97 's 1080 Ti tripple fan Evga doodad.

 

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That first card sounds pretty sketchy, 100 hours of gameplay? Any way to verify it? Why is he selling 4 days old gpu, he could get a full refund for it?

I would go for the second card, at least that guy is honest.

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is legit the reasoning here, buy the non mining card because the fanns might last a bit further? oml. a new set of fans is like $2 from alibaba.

 

id probably get the mining card and buy some icecream to flex on the gaming cards buyer

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

is legit the reasoning here, buy the non mining card because the fanns might last a bit further? oml. a new set of fans is like $2 from alibaba.

 

id probably get the mining card and buy some icecream to flex on the gaming cards buyer

Even if you're worried about fan life, buy a founders card. Ball bearing fan and aren't the 10 series fan the same fan they used sense the 7 series?

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Just now, vinyldash303 said:

Even if you're worried about fan life, buy a founders card. Ball bearing fan and aren't the 10 series fan the same fan they used sense the 7 series?

Same as 7 and 9 series cards for reference.

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1 minute ago, KingCry said:

Same as 7 and 9 series cards for reference.

Much easier to find a replacement then

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1 minute ago, vinyldash303 said:

Even if you're worried about fan life, buy a founders card. Ball bearing fan and aren't the 10 series fan the same fan they used sense the 7 series?

they have used that same fan for ages, my GTX 275 has an extremely similar fan on it too, fans dont really tend to die unless they have garbage bearings, have manufacturing defects or are exposed to hell

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48 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

That first card sounds pretty sketchy, 100 hours of gameplay? Any way to verify it? Why is he selling 4 days old gpu, he could get a full refund for it?

I would go for the second card, at least that guy is honest.

well to be exact, he was doing video editing rendering for a large project. But I "equivalented" it at 100 hours of gameplay.

 

 

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Lol Cant make up shit just because. If the card is a deal get it. Use is use unless you don't know better.

 

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1 hour ago, TheKiwiColonel said:

well to be exact, he was doing video editing rendering for a large project. But I "equivalented" it at 100 hours of gameplay.

 

 

If you have enough evidence to support these claims then that is also not a bad deal.

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