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i7 8700k + RTX2070: heavy drops in GPU usage for no apparent reason

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Hi,

 

I'm facing problems after changing my GPU. I switched from an ASUS Strix 970 to an MSI Armor 2070.

Although the GPU is most of the times at a high load at around 90 to 100%, there are very occasional drops in the usage to under 80, sometimes even to around 50% usage which results in framedrops and heavy stutters.

 

Since I have an i7 8700k and 16 GB of RAM a limitation from the CPU side should be excluded.

 

I mainly play Battlefield V, Battlefield 1 and PUBG at the moment and although the overall performance was worse with my 970 (which is to be expected), the overall usage was always at a high level (99% mostly) and there were no major drops in usage like the ones I'm having right now with my 2070. I can also exclude temperature problems since my CPU is not getting hotter than 80 degrees celsius. There is also no sign of downclocking and the GPU itself is relatively cool at around 60 to maximum 65 degrees. I even bought a second 2070 to make sure that I didn't buy a faulty one.

 

My system: 

- i7 8700k
- 16 GB DDR 2400Mhz Corsair
- MSI Z370 A Pro-Mainboard
- MSI Armor RTX 2070 Non-OC
- Fractal Design FD-PSU-TS2W-650W Tesla R2 power supply
- 250 GB SSD & 2 TB Seagate-HDD

 

I tried a couple of things by myself:

- Installing and uninstalling the GPU drivers a couple of times

- BIOS update for my mainboard

- installing the games on different drives/SSDs

 

My personal guess is that there is a problem with my relatively old and heavily used power supply (which is more than 4 years old) which might not be able to supply enough power. It is a quality power supply, but it is quite old - just like I said. In addition, the RTX 2070 uses two cables. A six-pin and an eight-pin cable whereas my 970 only required on 8-pin.

According to GPU-Z, the power drops along with the GPU usage - which I guess is to be expected.

 

I also checked other users with pretty much the same configuration on Youtube who have a very stable 90 to almost 100% usage in those particular games (BFV, BF1). So I can't understand why my GPU usage is dropping like that which it didn't do with the 970.

 

Anyone else have a guess apart from the power supply?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

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Did do a clean install of the drivers after swapping? Also I'd make sure to always stay up to date on drivers, the RTX cards are pretty new so there'll probs be tons of bug fixes and optimization, so you'll want to be running the newest drivers available. 

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Ok.... You can't rule out a problem with the CPU or RAM just because it's an 8700K. You still should monitor CPU and RAM usage, because it's very possible that that could be a problem. Is either the CPU or GPU overclocked? Make sure there are no other programs opening and closing in the background, like an anti-virus or something. Also make sure your power cables are fully connected, and try reseating the GPU in the PCIe slot.

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I would make sure you are running both games in dx11 as dx12 has been know to have stuttering issues in both bf1 and bf5. And pubg stuttering is probably just the game being overall bad. 

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It is early days for the RTX cards. 

 

Have you updated the cards bios?

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Thanks for the quick answers.

I should have given more input:

- I did a clean install of the drivers, but I did not touch my Windows - so there is always the possibility of a complete clean install of my operating system as a last resort. 

- the CPU is monitored while testing and does not drop in clock speed. The load is quite high with 80% but it's not reaching the 100%. It is not overclocked, just like the GPU.

- I tested BF1 and BFV in both DX11 and DX12. Interestingly, the performance under DX11 is worse than under DX12, at least for BFV. I get less stutter but the stutters are heavier, even to a point where the game seems to freeze. BF1, on the other hand, is a complete mess under DX12, so I stick to DX11.

- PUBG is a mess, yeah. But even this game should perform better than it currently does.

 

Also: 

I get the freezes even with very low resolution (720p) and with the GPU being locked at 60 fps.

 

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It's the newest Nvidia drivers version but I didn't touch the GPU bios :)

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Hey OP did you find any solution to your issue? 

 

I am running the exact same system as you and my GPU never reaches 100% in BFV and sometimes it drops where my CPU and GPU usage is almost identical (80% both)and even sometimes for a short period of time GPU usage goes below CPU usage and then goes back up but never stays on 100%.

 

Temperatures are not an issue since i have removed the glass from the side of my case and GPU stays around 65c and CPU around 60c and i havent overclocked neither my GPU or CPU. 

 

Recently i made a fresh install of my windows and i added BFV in my new m.2 and there are no programs running behind that could affect my in game performance. 

 

I have added physX and OpenGL through nvidias control panel to run by rtx 2070 and i a running the game on high settings DX12(since it performs better than DX11). 

 

I am not really sure if this is RTX series fault and we need some drivers or its the games fault.I dont really have an issue with stutters or freezes but its really frustrating when you run stable 144fps and it drops to 110 and your gpu usage drops to 70%. 

 

I am not really sure if overclocking my GPU/CPU would fix this issue. 

 

 

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Well the patch in bf1 ruined the game. Can’t get over 70% usage on my card now. 

 

I don’t play V any more so idk if the same thing happened there. Pubg always gave me less gpu usage on 1080p. 

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If you have access to a spare power supply that would be a great starting point.

 

Make sure that windows isn't in any sort of power saving mode. Set the power settings to high performance or custom.

 

Also, you mentioned you have overclocked the CPU and the GPU. What are your clocks and temps? If either of these get too hot and start to throttle it will cause these dropping fps issues. Even if your temps are okay, you should try to run on stock clocks and see if anything changes.

 

If all of this is inconclusive you could have a faulty CPU or GPU.

 

If you have access to a friend's system that is similar, that would work wonders for testing.

 

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