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Is gaming on an older Xeon a viable option?

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I have the opportunity to buy a PC with these specs:

-Xeon W3565

-Quadro 600 1gb

-12 GB RAM

Obviously I can't game on the Quadro so I'm wondering if I should get a new graphics card (e.g. RX580, GTX 1060, etc) and put it in the PC. (Upgrade PSU if necessary). 

I want to know whether this is a good idea on not. Will the Xeon be able to play games properly?

Thanks!

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Yeah, it will, but I'd put $50 toward something like an X5675. X58 is still a great platform if you have the 6C12T Xeons.

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4 minutes ago, slickboss21 said:

Obviously I can't game on the Quadro

strictly speaking you can game on Quadro. The problem for you is that the Quadro 600 is pitifully slow.

 

4 minutes ago, slickboss21 said:

so I'm wondering if I should get a new graphics card (e.g. RX580, GTX 1060, etc) and put it in the PC. (Upgrade PSU if necessary). 

RX 570 will do, the CPU bottleneck is a prominent issue so faster graphics cards might not end up giving higher frame rates anyway

 

New PSU recommended, even if there's enough wattage

 

5 minutes ago, slickboss21 said:

Will the Xeon be able to play games properly?

a bit on the slower side, since its specs relate to first gen Core i7s.

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I say if it's a good enough deal, go for it, But I think a 1060 is a bit overkill for a cpu like that. The CPU would likely bottleneck the GPU. I'd pair it with a 1050 Ti instead. As a project I converted an older HP Z400 Workstation into low - mid level gaming PC. I replaced the W3503 with a E5640 and it performs pretty good. I paired the E5640 with an EVGA 1050 Ti, and while running PUBG, both cpu and gpu were at 100%. When I tested the E5640 with my GTX 1060, The cpu was at 100% while the gpu was running around 85 - 90%.

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5 minutes ago, Brent744 said:

I say if it's a good enough deal, go for it, But I think a 1060 is a bit overkill for a cpu like that. The CPU would likely bottleneck the GPU. I'd pair it with a 1050 Ti instead. As a project I converted an older HP Z400 Workstation into low - mid level gaming PC. I replaced the W3503 with a E5640 and it performs pretty good. I paired the E5640 with an EVGA 1050 Ti, and while running PUBG, both cpu and gpu were at 100%. When I tested the E5640 with my GTX 1060, The cpu was at 100% while the gpu was running around 85 - 90%.

With a good board those CPUs will overclock phenomenally. I'm not surprised a z400 and e5640 couldn't keep up with a 1060.

 

At 4Ghz I have no problems with a gtx 1080.

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5 minutes ago, asand1 said:

With a good board those CPUs will overclock phenomenally. I'm not surprised a z400 and e5640 couldn't keep up with a 1060.

 

At 4Ghz I have no problems with a gtx 1080.

Oh, you can overclock the W3565?

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Lga1366 CPUs will bclk overclock. A few even have an unlocked muliplier.

My daily OC is 4ghz, but most folks do closer to 4.4-4.6.

 

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Upgrading to an x5660 for $20 will get you 6c/12t and should OC to 4Ghz+.

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Yeah, LGA 1366 is still completely viable. If you need to; look into the youtube channel "Tech YES City" he constantly covers older hardware like this and commonly shows numbers showing that x58 and newer are still completely valid options. The price:performance ratio can be obscenely high, with still good just flat performance. 

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Keep in mind you can only overclock LGA 1366 with an x58 platform. The E5640 I have in my Z400 is installed on a HP OEM motherboard, which means I cannot overclock that machine unless I switch to a x58 board.

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1 hour ago, asand1 said:

With a good board those CPUs will overclock phenomenally. I'm not surprised a z400 and e5640 couldn't keep up with a 1060.

 

At 4Ghz I have no problems with a gtx 1080.

Wow that's impressive that you were able to pair a Xeon x5680 with a GTX 1080. Those old Xeon's are beasts and in most cases under-rated.

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