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Take the Meshify C for example, using the Dark rock Pro 4. Would adding 2 140mm intakes in the above fan slots help, hinder, or make no difference?

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it can help, but not much.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

it can help, but not much.

Thanks.

I seriously see you alot, do you stalk these forumns?!

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Hurt & hinder mean the same thing. But that wouldn't happen.


If you use them as intakes it'd help keep a positive pressure. With the Meshify C (and many other popular cases) the front and top grills are filtered and if you keep more air going into the case than being pushed out, that'll keep dust from being sucked into cracks.


From a cooling standpoint, more airflow is always better IMO.

 

From a noise standpoint, you'll be making more noise for the same amount of airflow if you don't actually need the extra cooling & are using the headers on your PC + fan curves. I love my fan controller for this reason (see my signature)

 

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Just now, Chronified said:

Hurt & hinder mean the same thing. But that wouldn't happen.


If you use them as intakes it'd help keep a positive pressure. With the Meshify C (and many other popular cases) the front and top grills are filtered and if you keep more air going into the case than being pushed out, that'll keep dust from being sucked into cracks.


From a cooling standpoint, more airflow is always better IMO.

 

From a noise standpoint, you'll be making more noise for the same amount of airflow if you don't actually need the extra cooling & are using the headers on your PC + fan curves. I love my fan controller for this reason (see my signature)

 

Ya meant help, tired tonight.

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2 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Thanks.

I seriously see you alot, do you stalk these forumns?!

you can put it that way... it's my browser's home page after all

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

you can put it that way... it's my browser's home page after all

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you can put it that way... it's my browser's home page after all

HA that is amazing but not that surprising 

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16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you can put it that way... it's my browser's home page after all

Anyways, what about this scenario:

 

Meshify C with 2x140 intake on front, 240 AIO in the roof with intake, and 120 exhaust. Still positive airflow, but how well would it work ya think? 

 

I see the aio getting getting fresh air fron the top, GPU gets fresh air from the front, and it all exhausts out the back or any other gap.

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21 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Anyways, what about this scenario:

 

Meshify C with 2x140 intake on front, 240 AIO in the roof with intake, and 120 exhaust. Still positive airflow, but how well would it work ya think? 

 

I see the aio getting getting fresh air fron the top, GPU gets fresh air from the front, and it all exhausts out the back or any other gap.

You will gather dust on top of your case faster since dust will settle down by gravity and you help them to settled there easier even you have filter on it.

 

But this is a review of how to setup intake fans which involving top fan mounts to get the most of cooling performance of a case

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2301-most-comprehensive-corsair-400c-benchmark-review-specs/Page-2

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11 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Anyways, what about this scenario:

 

Meshify C with 2x140 intake on front, 240 AIO in the roof with intake, and 120 exhaust. Still positive airflow, but how well would it work ya think? 

 

I see the aio getting getting fresh air fron the top, GPU gets fresh air from the front, and it all exhausts out the back or any other gap.

That's how I thought at first, until I realized how little space Fractal gave for a top mounted radiator. Push pull or thick rads won't work up there as it blocks the toip of the motherbaord.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

That's how I thought at first, until I realized how little space Fractal gave for a top mounted radiator. Push pull or thick rads won't work up there as it blocks the toip of the motherbaord.

Well ram at 40mm or below will work. It does exist: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LbCD4D/crucial-ballistix-tactical-tracer-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-blt2k8g4d30bet4k

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8 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

not just RAM, but also VRM heatsink and even the EPS power plug.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

not just RAM, but also VRM heatsink and even the EPS power plug.

Hmm didn;t think of that, how do you find out the height of those components?

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4 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Hmm didn;t think of that, how do you find out the height of those components?

i dont know about the VRM heatsink height, but on the power connector side, just make sure the connector is near the corner of the board, not at the middle like the EVGA X299 Micro2

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

i dont know about the VRM heatsink height, but on the power connector side, just make sure the connector is near the corner of the board, not at the middle like the EVGA X299 Micro2

Was looking at gigabyte boards, most of them are.

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

i dont know about the VRM heatsink height, but on the power connector side, just make sure the connector is near the corner of the board, not at the middle like the EVGA X299 Micro2

Looks like they fit a 240 in the top It's using an Asus prime board, but it looks like thers plenty of room for higher vram.

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