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Ryzen 2700x ram/mobo advice!

hey guys,

i choose the 2700x as my new cpu!

but lots and lots of problem came up!

watching some vids on the net i saw that zen+ still works a lot better with fast ram!

sooooo now the question.. let's say that a mobo support up to 3400mhz can i go higher or its just the limit supported?

whats the sweet spot for ram speed on this cpu?

lets talk about costs the 3200mhz is the more affordable the higher i go the more 60 to 100 euros i spend.

 

so about that if i take the  x470 auros ultra gaming , 2700x , tridentz rgb 3200mhz i spend around 644euros

but if i have to get higher mhz ram and have to go with a difference mobo cause it not support the 3600mhz ram the price is a whole new story

let's say the asus prime,  trident 3600mhz, 2700x is 763 euros

are those 120 euros more getting me a nice performance bump?

 

is it cheaper to just oc the cpu to 4.2 and have a 3200mhz ram?

and still have similar performance?

can the stock cooler bring me to 4.2 or i have to upgrade?

 thanks guys in advance for the time!

 

 

 

 

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There is a limit you can keep going up in memory frequency you know, specially with the weaker IMC Ryzen features it will get a point your timings will be bloody awful.

 

Just stick to 3200mhz if you can have it running on 16 17 17 37~ ish timings it'll be enough.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

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20 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

There is a limit you can keep going up in memory frequency you know, specially with the weaker IMC Ryzen features it will get a point your timings will be bloody awful.

 

Just stick to 3200mhz if you can have it running on 16 17 17 37~ ish timings it'll be enough.

whats a good ram?

is the trident z rgb 3200mhz good?

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Just now, Ayiumo1 said:

whats a good ram?

is the trident z rgb 3200mhz good?

Sure, GSkill has the best memory in the market, personally speaking.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Sure, GSkill has the best memory in the market, personally speaking.

i have to tweak it?

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Just now, Ayiumo1 said:

i have to tweak it?

 It is absurdly easy to, in order to achieve the most out of it yeah.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 It is absurdly easy to, in order to achieve the most out of it yeah.

there is some guide i can watch?

 

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Just now, Ayiumo1 said:

there is some guide i can watch?

Have you ever used YouTube before?

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Have you ever used YouTube before?

yes but i dont know which video to watch

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@Ayiumo1  I would encourage getting the ASUS Strix X470 so that you can take advantage of their Performance Enhancer levels.  It's a better solution to traditional overclocking because you can use it to overclock your CPU without losing the ability to downclock or lose the top end of the CPU.  And you won't see a difference between 3200 and 3600.  I actually started with a 3200MHz kit and moved to a 3600MHz kit but it was purely for benchmarking.  There isn't an observable difference unless you run benchmarks.  

AMD Ryzen 3900X  |  Fractal Design S36 360 AIO w/6 Corsair SP120L fans  |  Asus Crosshair VII WiFi X470  |  G.SKILL TridentZ 3600CL15 2x8GB @ 3800MHz 14-16-14-14-34  |  EVGA 1070 Ti SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black w/NZXT Kraken G12 Cooler  |  Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB - Boot Drive  |  Samsung 850 EVO SSD 1TB - Game Drive  |  Seagate 1TB HDD - Media Drive  |  EVGA 650 G3 PSU | Thermaltake Core P3 Case 

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4 hours ago, nick name said:

@Ayiumo1  I would encourage getting the ASUS Strix X470 so that you can take advantage of their Performance Enhancer levels.  It's a better solution to traditional overclocking because you can use it to overclock your CPU without losing the ability to downclock or lose the top end of the CPU.  And you won't see a difference between 3200 and 3600.  I actually started with a 3200MHz kit and moved to a 3600MHz kit but it was purely for benchmarking.  There isn't an observable difference unless you run benchmarks.  

thanks dude!

what about the prime one?

the strix  costs a lot! 222euros instead of 180! xD

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19 minutes ago, Ayiumo1 said:

thanks dude!

what about the prime one?

the strix  costs a lot! 222euros instead of 180! xD

The Prime is great but it doesn't have all the Level Enhancers that the Strix and more expensive Crosshair VII does.  I had the Prime first and it overclocked well, but using the Performance Enhancers is a way to overclock that doesn't just set one lower speed for the CPU.  The Strix also allows BCLK adjustments, but not in decimal increments.  The Crosshair VII does.  

 

Performance Enhancer Level 3 and Level 4 ignore the fit/safety parameters of Precision Boost Overdrive so the CPU will not downclock while under load as it would with regular PBO.  So it behaves much like a traditional overclock would in that sense.  However, it still allows the CPU to go through all its power stages so you can still see peak single core speeds of 4.35GHz or higher if you raise the BCLK multiplier.  

 

So to give an example -- regular PBO will set a multiplier within FIT parameters that it will attempt to hold as long as the CPU stays within those parameters.  When it eventually falls out of those parameters it begins to lose speed.  With strong cooling it will be about 4GHz and then drop shortly after starting the workload.  Performance Enhancer Levels 3 and 4 will decide a multiplier at boot and that multiplier is held during multi-core workloads.  Level 3 will set anywhere from 4.1GHz to 4.175Ghz with strong cooling.  While Level 4 will set 4.2GHz to 4.3GHz with strong cooling.  Add BCLK to that and it will increase the speed further.  You can also manipulate the multiplier with Ryzen Master after boot and change it on-the-fly.  And you can close Ryzen Master after you make the change.  It's what I do.  I run Performance Enhancer Level 3 with BCLK 102 and then adjust EDC (which changes the multiplier) with Ryzen Master.  I can go from 4.33GHz to anything below it depending on my mood or workload.  And peak single-core speed is 4.44Ghz.

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