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Fractal Design Core 500 - Fan vs Blower GPU?

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For a case like this, would it be better to use a blower ot fan type GPU?

 

The GPU in question is a 2080 ti.

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Get the blower, but i wouldnt buy the 2080 yet, its got some problems

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8750H RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti

 

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1 minute ago, MrReaver said:

Get the blower, but i wouldnt buy the 2080 yet, its got some problems

Won't be getting it for a bit.

 

The only blower I can see if the Asus Turbo. It's hard to actually find reviews on blower cards. Do you know of any that actually say how loud it is?

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7 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Won't be getting it for a bit.

 

The only blower I can see if the Asus Turbo. It's hard to actually find reviews on blower cards. Do you know of any that actually say how loud it is?

Well depending on what your using the card for, even for gaming, you shouldnt need the turbo card. But heres for info on video card coolers : http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/07/video-card-coolers-blower-vs-open-air-vs-aio/

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neither, wait for one of those hybrid cards with AIO liquid cooler strapped on it instead. 2080ti's heat output is difficult for blowers to handle well.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

neither, wait for one of those hybrid cards with AIO liquid cooler strapped on it instead. 2080ti's heat output is difficult for blowers to handle well.

How long ya think they will take?

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Just now, Masters2150 said:

How long ya think they will take?

Hopefully before the end of the year

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Hopefully before the end of the year

Ok then I'm fine, hopefully they'll have fixed the issues by then to.

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11 hours ago, Masters2150 said:

Ok then I'm fine, hopefully they'll have fixed the issues by then to.

I would agree with Hybrid, also because most 2080ti's are over 2 slot designs which might be a problem not only in terms of thickness of the panel but in case they actually require three PCI-E slots (EVGA for example)

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28 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I would agree with Hybrid, also because most 2080ti's are over 2 slot designs which might be a problem not only in terms of thickness of the panel but in case they actually require three PCI-E slots (EVGA for example)

Heres a cross section of the Gigabyte 2080 ti Windforce OC:

 

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It's slightly bigger but would at most touch the side of the case, but since it's perforated, it SHOULD be ok I think.

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38 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Heres a cross section of the Gigabyte 2080 ti Windforce OC:

 

It's slightly bigger but would at most touch the side of the case, but since it's perforated, it SHOULD be ok I think.

That's one of the few exceptions. I dont know how well it performs to the other coolers though. 

 

39 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

God bless headphones.

Not when mine are open back :D 

 

Also RIP temperatures, I'd probably take a reference card over a blower card.

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2 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

That's one of the few exceptions. I dont know how well it performs to the other coolers though. 

 

Not when mine are open back :D 

 

Also RIP temperatures, I'd probably take a reference card over a blower card.

Does Fractal or be quiet make an ITX case with noise obsorbing panels? Could get a blowe then, most of the sound would be deadened.

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Just now, Masters2150 said:

Does Fractal or be quiet make an ITX case with noise obsorbing panels? Could get a blowe then, most of the sound would be deadened.

Fractal makes the Define Nano S. Though it's not the silent'est of cases (thats not a word but you know what I mean) Be quiet does not make any mITX or mATX cases I'm aware of.

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1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

Fractal makes the Define Nano S. Though it's not the silent'est of cases (thats not a word but you know what I mean) Be quiet does not make any mITX or mATX cases I'm aware of.

Would it be enough to drown out the blower card? I don't need a silent room but should still do something.

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2 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

Would it be enough to drown out the blower card? I don't need a silent room but should still do something.

Not entirely, because a lot of the foam is good for high pitched noise like coil whine, but a lot of low hums or loud volumes would still be audible since thin foam doesnt help diffuse those much. Though overall it would definitely be quieter. You would also notice an increase in temps regardless of using blower or open face coolers since the card is no longer pulling fresh air from outside the case. 

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8 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Not entirely, because a lot of the foam is good for high pitched noise like coil whine, but a lot of low hums or loud volumes would still be audible since thin foam doesnt help diffuse those much. Though overall it would definitely be quieter. You would also notice an increase in temps regardless of using blower or open face coolers since the card is no longer pulling fresh air from outside the case. 

Is it so much to want small form factor, good cooling, and quiet fans all in one package?.......without spending a fortune on water cooling?

 

Wonder what would happen if I take the EVGA 2080 TI FTW3, and cut a hole in the side panel ALA JankyLinus to make room for it....

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33 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Not entirely, because a lot of the foam is good for high pitched noise like coil whine, but a lot of low hums or loud volumes would still be audible since thin foam doesnt help diffuse those much. Though overall it would definitely be quieter. You would also notice an increase in temps regardless of using blower or open face coolers since the card is no longer pulling fresh air from outside the case. 

What do you think of this build: https://techbuyersguru.com/2500-ultra-extreme-mini-itx-pc-build

 

How would the thermals be in it?

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I’ve got a build in a Nano S. It’s pretty quiet, no whines or high pitch and the thermals are pretty good with just three fans.

 

I plan to go AIO graphics when I next upgrade, I dont have a blower style in there right now and you can tell from the thermals. Both CPU and GPU are dumping heat into the case. TBH it deals with it quite well and has space for me to add two more out and one more in fan.

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1 hour ago, Masters2150 said:

What do you think of this build: https://techbuyersguru.com/2500-ultra-extreme-mini-itx-pc-build

 

How would the thermals be in it?

A 1080ti/2080/2080ti (should it fit) would be perfectly fine but be no quieter per say that the Core 500, since the fans are facing out in the open, which is where a lot of the sound leaks from. The CPU cooler would theoretically be louder/warmer because you have to use a low profile cooler, where as you can use a Tower cooler in the Core 500. However, it's very small compared to the Core 500 and thats the main advantage to it. 

 

Granted, I'm an owner of a 380T which has a similar "GPU filtered intake" style and it's quiet (enough) that with the fans running at about 50-60% I can sleep with it in the same room as me (about 3-4 feet away from the head of my bed). It's still audible, but it's not loud to the point where I cant sleep. So each individual person's tolerance on how loud a system can be varies.

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My recommendation is if you can wait for a hybrid, do so because you'll be able to fit it in something like a Define Nano S, get good airflow for both the GPU and CPU, be relatively compact (though not AS compact as say the Node 202) and quieter than an Open GPU intake design.

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12 minutes ago, Masters2150 said:

How do you find temps?

Temps are under 70ºC pretty much at all times. They actually drop slightly when I take the side panel. I believe this is because the heat gets expelled out the top/bottom of the card, and the bottom part specifically can leave the mesh panel back into the open air and get sucked back in. The top also is a bit restrictive in terms of an exhaust, having to bend almost 180º to get back into the case and be forced out the back, but the dust filtration benefits outweigh the 4-5ºC difference. 

 

I have a 200mm fan at the front and a i7-4790k @4.4ghz stock V under a Cryorig H7, and temps are also under 70ºC. The downside to having so much airflow and space is (relative to other mITX cases) it's fairly large. But Still portable! Just not in a backpack :D 

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Seems like a lot of compromise for a lot of card. Msi has a hybrid out. Not something I would buy but limited on choices right now. 

 

Reference cards seem to have issues right now. Not sure if I’d pick blower given the tdp of the card and the horrid looks, unlike the past 3 gens which were decent. 

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1 hour ago, Mick Naughty said:

Seems like a lot of compromise for a lot of card. Msi has a hybrid out. Not something I would buy but limited on choices right now. 

 

Reference cards seem to have issues right now. Not sure if I’d pick blower given the tdp of the card and the horrid looks, unlike the past 3 gens which were decent. 

Doesn't MSI use corsair coolers? Seems ok.

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1 hour ago, Masters2150 said:

Doesn't MSI use corsair coolers? Seems ok.

Well it looks like crap and id rather put a 240 aio on that kinda card. 

Also saying corsair isn't telling me who made the pump, which is the actual concern.

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