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Windows 10 October Update 2018 - Re-Released

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Windows 10 October Update (version 1809) released this past October but quickly pulled by Microsoft after reports of users loosing their data loss after the update took place. Microsoft has offered free data recovery support and service to those affected via a toll-free number.

 

Microsoft has patched the issues related to this, and have released the update to Insiders for testing, and carefully monitoring any data loss and reports. After approximately a month later, and no reports of data loss, the company officially is re-releasing the update to all.

 

John Cable, Microsoft's Director of Program Management, Windows Servicing and Delivery said the following:

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[W]e have taken time to closely monitor feedback and diagnostic data from our Windows Insiders and from the millions of devices on the Windows 10 October Update, and we have no further evidence of data loss. Based on this data, today we are beginning the re-release of the October Update by making it available via media and to advanced users who seek to manually check for updates.

 

 

Source: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-begins-re-rollout-windows-10-october-2018-update

 

This version of Windows includes a number of improvements and new features such as Dark Theme File Explorer. You can read more about what is new here:

 

As usual, the update is released in waves. So it may take time before you can upgrade.

 

And as I always recommend:

  • Make sure your security software (if any) is fully updated. This includes anti-virus (beside Windows built-in solution) - Better yet, uninstall them, restart and now upgrade if you want to ensure 0 issue related to this.
  • Make sure you update ALL your drivers before upgrading, this includes: Chipset, SATA controller, audio, printer, input/capture card, etc.
  • Never use registry cleaner (you are looking at problem already, maybe consider clean-install. Same if you got virus/malware infection deployed on the system, as your security software only removes the infection, if it modified system files, it can't fix system files)
  • And of course, backup your stuff, if you have no backup already.

 

Happy upgrading

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12 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Maybe it's time to slow the release cadence and rehire some if not all of the internal testers they fired. This experiment has failed.

Microsoft has testers. For the longest time Microsoft does contractual work with companies who hires testers. Apple who didn't change anything is now facing similar issues as Microsoft with updates that 'causes all sorts of bugs to appear and even brick Apple Watches. OS is a very complex piece of software. The issue is that the model that Microsoft was using wasn't working well, and needs to be modified or changed.

 

But if you want to blame someone... blame smartphones, primarily Google. They are the one that showed a 3 year dev cycle for handful of features is crap, and we should have continuous features all for free.

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3 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Microsoft has testers. For the longest time Microsoft does contractual work with companies who hires testers. Apple who didn't change anything is now facing similar issues as Microsoft with updates that 'causes all sorts of bugs to appear and even brick Apple Watches. OS is a very complex piece of software. The issue is that the model that Microsoft was using wasn't working well, and needs to be modified or changed.

 

I agree very silly issues that have arisen, even though both Apple and Microsoft have internal and public testers, Microsoft with their staff and Insider Program, and Apple with their staff and Developer, plus Beta program for all their devices. Very strange how these large bugs don't get picked up - even though the releases are preceded by at least a month of public testing. 

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1 minute ago, RorzNZ said:

I agree very silly issues that have arisen, even though both Apple and Microsoft have internal and public testers, Microsoft with their staff and Insider Program, and Apple with their staff and Developer, plus Beta program for all their devices. Very strange how these large bugs don't get picked up - even though the releases are preceded by at least a month of public testing. 

The consumer are all unpaid beta testers for business since Microsoft's huge layoff 4 years ago. That's why huge bugs get through.

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Just now, Dabombinable said:

The consumer are all unpaid beta testers for business since Microsoft's huge layoff 4 years ago. That's why huge bugs get through.

There are no staff testing it, and its just the insider program? Thats rediculous. If those testers are like me whenever I get one, I usually ignore the emails or just not send any feedback whatsoever. Dam. 

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13 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I agree very silly issues that have arisen, even though both Apple and Microsoft have internal and public testers, Microsoft with their staff and Insider Program, and Apple with their staff and Developer, plus Beta program for all their devices. Very strange how these large bugs don't get picked up - even though the releases are preceded by at least a month of public testing. 

I think the issue is that upper manager wants fixed release dates.. why? I don't know... they rushed release this October release, it shocked everyone as Slow Ring and Release Preview ring didn't get the latest set of builds, just to make the October release date. This has resulted in what we have now. If they took time, and be flexible in release dates, then probably the issue would not be there as it would have been better identified and fixed.

 

The issue of upper managed wants fixed date release is a big issue in software developments for all large companies. 'cause companies needs to measure performance, and performance of employees is measure by doing things in time. While it may work for bureaucracy, it doesn't work for software development... and sadly changing this mentality is VERY hard. And it is even harder for contracted work "The date of software release for our client was set to this date, he had to pick this date because else client would go with our competitor as they want it as soon as possible, and we need the work/money...." Sadly, as most people don't understand software let alone software development, hard dates can't be set. People understand delays in civil engineers which are nearly always.. but software it isn't sadly. So rush rush rush model is taken, and you have burn outs, and you have poor quality software hitting the consumer hands.

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12 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

There are no staff testing it, and its just the insider program? Thats rediculous. If those testers are like me whenever I get one, I usually ignore the emails or just not send any feedback whatsoever. Dam. 

You do have staff testing it. Microsoft has a QA team, and has QA contracted companies that works for Microsoft.

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10 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

You do have staff testing it. Microsoft has a QA team, and has QA contracted companies that works for Microsoft.

That's not many people though. It was well over ten thousand  that were let go by Microsoft.

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How to force it?

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43 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

The consumer are all unpaid beta testers for business since Microsoft's huge layoff 4 years ago. That's why huge bugs get through.

Bugs will get through regardless of how many testers there are. Only so much you can test. 

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1 hour ago, Bouzoo said:

At this point I only care about Task Manager fix. It baffles me how that even made it in release. 

What's wrong with the Task Manager?

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18 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

Select "Update now" button. It will download the Windows Update Assistance, run it, and it will force you in getting the update.

Only has an "upgrade now" or "create install media" options for me, and from what I know upgrade is for getting Win7-8 to Win10, not updating Win10... Or am I wrong?

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6 minutes ago, ElfenSky said:

Only has an "upgrade now" or "create install media" options for me, and from what I know upgrade is for getting Win7-8 to Win10, not updating Win10... Or am I wrong?

Sorry, I meant "Upgrade now".

You are correct on upgrading Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 to the latest version of Windows 10. But also, Windows 10 whatever version to the latest as well. When a new version of Windows 10 is released, it is delivers as a full OS upgrade.

If you prefer, you can see it as if we are on Windows 16 (6 version from Windows 10 initial release)

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4 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

If you prefer, you can see it as if we are on Windows 16 (6 version from Windows 10)

I think it would make more sense to call it Windows 10.x .

 

Like this:

10.0 - v1507

10.1 - v1511

10.2 - v1607

10.3 - v1703

10.4 - v1709

10.5 - v1803

10.6 - v1809

 

But ofc that's too logical and makes too much sense. :P /s

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Is this Windows version stable and problem free? I already make a disk backup of my rig yesterday, but I don't want to waste my time to install something that might brick my system. It will take 20 minutes for a full disk restore from external USB 3 backup drive. 

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7 minutes ago, Speed Weed said:

Is this Windows version stable and problem free? I already make a disk backup of my rig yesterday, but I don't want to waste my time to install something that might brick my system. It will take 20 minutes for a full disk restore from external USB 3 backup drive. 

If you are not comfortable upgrading yet, you are perhaps better wait until your wave comes.

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Just now, GoodBytes said:

So you better wait until your wave comes.

I don't see no wave here. 

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* Dark Theme File Explorer

 

I'm sold, where/how do I get it? Now that's "stable" enough.

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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30 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

* Dark Theme File Explorer

 

I'm sold, where/how do I get it? Now that's "stable" enough.

Yeah, pretty much the sole reason I tried forcing.

 

1 hour ago, GoodBytes said:

Sorry, I meant "Upgrade now".

You are correct on upgrading Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 to the latest version of Windows 10. But also, Windows 10 whatever version to the latest as well. When a new version of Windows 10 is released, it is delivers as a full OS upgrade.

If you prefer, you can see it as if we are on Windows 16 (6 version from Windows 10 initial release)

well, shit, I guess I'll just wait for the regular windows update to show up for my device then.

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2 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Maybe it's time to slow the release cadence and rehire some if not all of the internal testers they fired. This experiment has failed.

 

2 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

Microsoft has testers. For the longest time Microsoft does contractual work with companies who hires testers. Apple who didn't change anything is now facing similar issues as Microsoft with updates that 'causes all sorts of bugs to appear and even brick Apple Watches. OS is a very complex piece of software. The issue is that the model that Microsoft was using wasn't working well, and needs to be modified or changed.

 

But if you want to blame someone... blame smartphones, primarily Google. They are the one that showed a 3 year dev cycle for handful of features is crap, and we should have continuous features all for free.

I'm hardly arguing against you but I want a stable windows OS that I'm in control of, not new features. 

 

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