MSI 1070Ti Gaming vs ASUS Cerberus 1070Ti

[S James]

MSI 1070Ti Gaming vs ASUS Cerberus 1070Ti

If you had to pick one, which one would it be and why?

[r2724r16]

MSI has terrible customer service, while ASUS has decent customer service and I personally think their card looks better than the MSI gaming card, so go for the Cerberus 1070 Ti.

[Cereal5]

The cheaper one. Also, MSI's Duke card is a triple fan cooler, and in the US at least, is cheaper than the MSI Gaming and Asus Cerberus. That said, there are other, cheaper cards that I would recommend over both of those.

[i_build_nanosuits]

MSI gaming hands down, for the quality of the fans alone it's worth it.

[S James]

9 hours ago, r2724r16 said:

MSI has terrible customer service, while ASUS has decent customer service and I personally think their card looks better than the MSI gaming card, so go for the Cerberus 1070 Ti.

I have to agree on that. I have read so many reviews about them denying RMA service by simply not picking up the call or answering the ticket for months. For what I have found out, (atleast in my country) they don't even have an RMA center and rely on local partnered sources to handle their RMA which is terrible.

 

10 Phase VRM MSI 1070Ti vs 6+1 Phase VRM ASUS 1070Ti

would both have identical performance?
Given MSI's customer service I'd be scared to overclock it lol

[S James]

9 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

The cheaper one. Also, MSI's Duke card is a triple fan cooler, and in the US at least, is cheaper than the MSI Gaming and Asus Cerberus. That said, there are other, cheaper cards that I would recommend over both of those.

From where I am buying, these two options seems to be the best. They both cost around $620. The other options include GALAX 1070Ti EX ($574), ZOTAC 1080 Mini ($612), and ZOTAC 1070Ti Mini ($570). 

For GALAX, I am not sure about their RMA service. The ZOTAC 1080 Mini seems good but I have heard it has nearly the same cooling as a Founder's edition and will run a lot hotter while I could achieve the same performance with a good 1070Ti.

 

That being said, I have seen that the MSI 1070Ti has a 10 phase VRM while that of ASUS' 1070Ti has 6+1. Would it make a huge difference in overclocking?

[S James]

8 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

MSI gaming hands down, for the quality of the fans alone it's worth it.

I somewhat agree but it's ASUS we are talking about. The only thing holding me back was the lack of reviews. 

For the 1070Ti from MSI it has been benchmarked heavily both from Hardware Unboxed and Optimum Tech. But there are hardly any reviews on the Cerberus 1070Ti.

 

The MSI has 10 Phase VRM while the ASUS one has 6+1 Phase VRM. Do you believe this difference would have any significant impact on overclocking? 

[LukeSavenije]

if you want to overclock and don't have to worry about anything? then your best option is EVGA. really good costomer service, has overclocking in their warrenty. and you probebly can't even burn a pascal gpu, becouse they are voltage, power and thermally locked

[GamerDude]

1 hour ago, S James said:

I have to agree on that. I have read so many reviews about them denying RMA service by simply not picking up the call or answering the ticket for months. For what I have found out, (atleast in my country) they don't even have an RMA center and rely on local partnered sources to handle their RMA which is terrible.

 

10 Phase VRM MSI 1070Ti vs 6+1 Phase VRM ASUS 1070Ti

would both have identical performance?
Given MSI's customer service I'd be scared to overclock it lol

I think this varies from country to country, like mine. Both Asus and MSI are covered by local distributors who take care of RMA, and thus far, I've not heard anything negative on both from the chatter in the local tech chat forums. I recall having to RMA my Rampage IV Extreme, the whole process took a couple of weeks IIRC, but other than that, it was rather uneventful.

[i_build_nanosuits]

4 hours ago, S James said:

I somewhat agree but it's ASUS we are talking about. The only thing holding me back was the lack of reviews. 

For the 1070Ti from MSI it has been benchmarked heavily both from Hardware Unboxed and Optimum Tech. But there are hardly any reviews on the Cerberus 1070Ti.

 

The MSI has 10 Phase VRM while the ASUS one has 6+1 Phase VRM. Do you believe this difference would have any significant impact on overclocking? 

Yes the MSI card will overclock a lot better...ASUS track records when it comes to GPU is really bumpy BTW, and this is a bottom of the barel model from them we're talking about...this model has the same old fans found on my old GTX 980ti Strix card and they were AWEFUL...really loud, and its the only card i had a fan blade flew off from...anyways, the card is also IMHO just plain ugly...the MSI cards are top notch, awesome power delivery, best in class cooling solution...it's head and shoulders above an entry level product from ASUS.

[S James]

8 hours ago, GamerDude said:

I think this varies from country to country, like mine. Both Asus and MSI are covered by local distributors who take care of RMA, and thus far, I've not heard anything negative on both from the chatter in the local tech chat forums. I recall having to RMA my Rampage IV Extreme, the whole process took a couple of weeks IIRC, but other than that, it was rather uneventful.

Well, yes and no. Like you said, it varies from country to country. The forums I frequent are filled with terrible experiences from MSI. In one instance, they promised a guy another GPU but declined months later. In another, they fixed a backlit key (on a laptop) with a different one (non-backlit). Like I previously said, they have not setup any RMA centers of their own but instead have partnered with other local people who simply don't give a [expletive]. 

 

Is there a major performance difference between the ASUS Cerberus 1070Ti and MSI Gaming 1070Ti? They both cost the nearly the same but I am not entirely sure about their performance.

[kevinisbeast707]

Honestly I would also definitely recommend checking out EVGA. I was able to pick up their 1070 ti sc black edition for $450 new and their warranty alone is excellent. Just by registering it you get an additional 2 years. So that's not bad at all. Plus imo their cards look good and neutral and the fans are quiet enough. I've had bad luck with Asus gpu cooling solutions sucking but their rma team is excellent. On that hand I've never actually had a problem with msi's cards in the first place so...

[S James]

4 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Yes the MSI card will overclock a lot better...ASUS track records when it comes to GPU is really bumpy BTW, and this is a bottom of the barel model from them we're talking about...this model has the same old fans found on my old GTX 980ti Strix card and they were AWEFUL...really loud, and its the only card i had a fan blade flew off from...anyways, the card is also IMHO just plain ugly...the MSI cards are top notch, awesome power delivery, best in class cooling solution...it's head and shoulders above an entry level product from ASUS.

I see. 

From what I have heard, the Cerberus is somewhere between the Dual and the Strix. There weren't a lot of reviews on Amazon, but some suggested that they were able to achieve 2000 MHz oc on the Cerberus. 

 

I concur that MSI's Gaming is top of the line, but the warranty holds me back. Overclocking is safe but as it's a 1070Ti I will be overclocking at all times for that 1080 stock performance. I am only worried that  this will exacerbate it's life and if that happened I won't be getting any replacement from MSI. Whilst with ASUS, I could atleast get it repaired or RMA'd. 

 

Which card would you purchase if you were in my position?

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, S James said:

I see. 

From what I have heard, the Cerberus is somewhere between the Dual and the Strix. There weren't a lot of reviews on Amazon, but some suggested that they were able to achieve 2000 MHz oc on the Cerberus. 

 

I concur that MSI's Gaming is top of the line, but the warranty holds me back. Overclocking is safe but as it's a 1070Ti I will be overclocking at all times for that 1080 stock performance. I am only worried that  this will exacerbate it's life and if that happened I won't be getting any replacement from MSI. Whilst with ASUS, I could atleast get it repaired or RMA'd. 

 

Which card would you purchase if you were in my position?

what are you talking about? MSI carry the same 3 year warranty as all the other manufacturers and they also use the same RMA proccess just like asus, gigabyte, asrock etc...they all do the same.

https://ca.msi.com/page/warranty

Graphics Card

Warranty Term	Remarks
3 years	Warranty period of 36 months applies to all msi graphics cards.

 

Af far as overclocking goes...cards like this are meant to be overclocked...the MSI is a 10 phase board with a beefy cooler and everything, you will not get through it...they last a long ass time even when fully overclocked.

 

In your position i would buy the MSI in a heart beat...unless it's like 60 or 70$ more or something.