Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...

Making decision for CPU

Go to solution Solved by Princess Luna,
22 minutes ago, ShadowSlayer said:

Cpu's i have in my:

1. Intel i7-7700k, no need for new motherboard 

2. Intel i7-8700k- would need a new motherboard 

3. Ryzen 7 2700x- would need a new motherboard.

1. Can you close your side applications, background junk and all to go game? like can your OS be clean and let it focus resources on the game instead of w/e else? If you can do that this processor satisfies the 1070 Ti for high refresh rate in all accounts and will be much the same of at least lets say a stock i5 8600K.

2. You are doing this for higher refresh rate and the i7 8700K is the to go chip for that as it's identical to the i7 9700K on this regard. You will be by all means eliminating any bottleneck chance to the 1070 Ti... or a 1080 Ti... RTX 2080 Ti? You see it's really the best and you might be misjudging how much your 1070 Ti requires. Do this if you have the money as think it as a luxury.

This CPU however can be justified if you want to leave a bunch of junk open alongside your game like 200 tabs in chrome yay, content creation blah blah bah

3. This is the CPU you pick if you'll actually do *serious* work, since it prioritizes that at much better price while it can game all the same albeit bit lower fps... you know it's the people who aren't in this for a luxury alone for them, and the whole idea of price to performance rises up.

Awesome pick, AMD brought performance cost so much lower it should always be praised my brother was saving for an i7 6900K he managed to build an entire 1800X build for cheaper than the CPU price for an on pair performance lel.

 

The way I see it you should just get the i7 7700K, it's basically the i7 8700K with 2 cores less and lil bit less cache, so "IPC OC" and w/e is really much the same and its single thread performance which Still is the most important thing on gaming is on pair with the top.

Hello everyone, i hope i won't be bothering anyone.

I'm in need for some more experienced PC builder advice, so i'm turning to LTT Forum community.

After upgrading my monitor to 144hz i found a possible bottleneck whitch could be my CPU. After some thought i have 3 CPU's in mind. I will be mostly gaming on my PC and from time to time editing some videos.

Cpu's i have in my:

1. Intel i7-7700k, no need for new motherboard

2. Intel i7-8700k- would need a new motherboard

3. Ryzen 7 2700x- would need a new motherboard.

 

As Black friday and Christmas time is coming closer prices for some computer parts gonna drop, so i hope to find some good deals along the way.

 

My system specs:

Intel i5-7400

Asus Prime Z270-P

Corsair 12Gb DDR4 2400mhz (4gb+8gb)

Asus GTX 1070ti

Kingston 120gb SSD

Seagate BArracuda 2TB Hard drive

Corsair CP-9020078-UK Builder Series 750W Power supply 

Asus VG248QE Display

Thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Link to post
Share on other sites

1. depends on how much you can spend

 

2. 7700k is usually expensive used for some reason, that's why it's so difficult to recommend.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

1. depends on how much you can spend

 

2. 7700k is usually expensive used for some reason, that's why it's so difficult to recommend.

Sorry, i forgot to mention how much i can spend. My upper limit is aroung 500 GBP 

Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, ShadowSlayer said:

Sorry, i forgot to mention how much i can spend. My upper limit is aroung 500 GBP 

then it's 8700k for sure. It will stay relevant much longer than the 7700k (which is already showing its age) and can hit high frame rates regularly compared to the 2700X (or any Ryzen CPUs we've seen atm)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

then it's 8700k for sure. It will stay relevant much longer than the 7700k (which is already showing its age) and can hit high frame rates regularly compared to the 2700X (or any Ryzen CPUs we've seen atm)

Would i need a z370 motherboard with the 8700k or z270 would still be ok?

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, ShadowSlayer said:

Would i need a z370 motherboard with the 8700k or z270 would still be ok?

You will need a Z370 mobo or else it won't boot. For overclocking, a good one is crucial.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You will need a Z370 mobo or else it won't boot. For overclocking, a good one is crucial.

Thanks for the advice. I'll se what i can get around christmas time :)

5 minutes ago, EnergyEclipse said:

You could, if wanted get an i7-8086k for that price which is the fastest i7 CPU of all time: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-8086K-4-0GHz-LGA1151-x/dp/B07DGDWJ3P

Wow, that CPU is hella fast. But at the same time it's hitting end of my budget. Knowing that i probalby would need to spend around 150 GBP on motherboard. So it's kinda out of reach. And buying 8086k wound mean that i need to upgrade to 1080 or something simmilar.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, ShadowSlayer said:

And buying 8086k wound mean that i need to upgrade to 1080 or something simmilar.

you don't have to, you just dont get everything of the 8086k out. However, even 2080ti can't do that all the time at 1080p

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, ShadowSlayer said:

Cpu's i have in my:

1. Intel i7-7700k, no need for new motherboard 

2. Intel i7-8700k- would need a new motherboard 

3. Ryzen 7 2700x- would need a new motherboard.

1. Can you close your side applications, background junk and all to go game? like can your OS be clean and let it focus resources on the game instead of w/e else? If you can do that this processor satisfies the 1070 Ti for high refresh rate in all accounts and will be much the same of at least lets say a stock i5 8600K.

2. You are doing this for higher refresh rate and the i7 8700K is the to go chip for that as it's identical to the i7 9700K on this regard. You will be by all means eliminating any bottleneck chance to the 1070 Ti... or a 1080 Ti... RTX 2080 Ti? You see it's really the best and you might be misjudging how much your 1070 Ti requires. Do this if you have the money as think it as a luxury.

This CPU however can be justified if you want to leave a bunch of junk open alongside your game like 200 tabs in chrome yay, content creation blah blah bah

3. This is the CPU you pick if you'll actually do *serious* work, since it prioritizes that at much better price while it can game all the same albeit bit lower fps... you know it's the people who aren't in this for a luxury alone for them, and the whole idea of price to performance rises up.

Awesome pick, AMD brought performance cost so much lower it should always be praised my brother was saving for an i7 6900K he managed to build an entire 1800X build for cheaper than the CPU price for an on pair performance lel.

 

The way I see it you should just get the i7 7700K, it's basically the i7 8700K with 2 cores less and lil bit less cache, so "IPC OC" and w/e is really much the same and its single thread performance which Still is the most important thing on gaming is on pair with the top.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

1. Can you close your side applications, background junk and all to go game? like can your OS be clean and let it focus resources on the game instead of w/e else? If you can do that this processor satisfies the 1070 Ti for high refresh rate in all accounts and will be much the same of at least lets say a stock i5 8600K.

2. You are doing this for higher refresh rate and the i7 8700K is the to go chip for that as it's identical to the i7 9700K on this regard. You will be by all means eliminating any bottleneck chance to the 1070 Ti... or a 1080 Ti... RTX 2080 Ti? You see it's really the best and you might be misjudging how much your 1070 Ti requires. Do this if you have the money as think it as a luxury.

This CPU however can be justified if you want to leave a bunch of junk open alongside your game like 200 tabs in chrome yay, content creation blah blah bah

3. This is the CPU you pick if you'll actually do *serious* work, since it prioritizes that at much better price while it can game all the same albeit bit lower fps... you know it's the people who aren't in this for a luxury alone for them, and the whole idea of price to performance rises up.

Awesome pick, AMD brought performance cost so much lower it should always be praised my brother was saving for an i7 6900K he managed to build an entire 1800X build for cheaper than the CPU price for an on pair performance lel.

 

The way I see it you should just get the i7 7700K, it's basically the i7 8700K with 2 cores less and lil bit less cache, so "IPC OC" and w/e is really much the same and its single thread performance which Still is the most important thing on gaming is on pair with the top.

Thank you for the time you spent typing that down. It was detalized and with a little bit of humour. In all seriousness it all comes down to to the price. Like everyone else i too want to have prices as low as possoble. At the moment price difference between 7700k and 8700k is around 60 gbp. 

My housemate has 7700k bought last christmas for 270 gbp. So i hope something simmilar will happen this year.

If i can bring that price difference low enough i might try my luck for 8700k, but if not then 7700k will have to suffice. You know at christmas you always spend way too much money on thing you might not need. And in next year you go complaining that you ran out of money :P

Link to post
Share on other sites

With that money I would also get more than a CPU and mobo.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FBgfGG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FBgfGG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£210.77 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£79.19 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£131.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£75.16 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £497.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 00:20 GMT+0000

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Newegg

×