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Valve VR Headset Confirmed! In other news:Half Life (VR)

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Cheesy headline? Check ✓  (which @Princess Cadence kindly asked me to change.. ? 

 

It was way too tempting :D 

 

 

 

In short: looks like Valve may be releasing a new VR Headset with 135° FOV and "Knuckles Controllers", possibly some time in 2019. It boasts both photo diodes for outside in tracking as well as a pair of cameras, either for inside out tracking or pass-through.

 

 

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Images of a prototype VR headset with a Valve logo visible on the circuit board leaked on the image sharing website imgur. Our independent sources tell us these are in fact prototypes for an upcoming Valve HMD.

We’ve also heard the field of view will be 135° with “Vive Pro resolution.” It may also come bundled with ‘Knuckles’ controllers as well as a Half-Life based VR game that could be a prequel rather than the much-anticipated Half-Life 3.

TBO, those are quite a few 'may'...

 

However, Valve is not a new player in the hardware game.

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Releasing its own headset would be a major shift in Valve’s strategy for VR, but the company previously shipped the Steam Controller and Steam Link devices — so it wouldn’t be unheard of for the privately held company to build and ship its own hardware.

 

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The leaked Valve headset features what appear to be SteamVR tracking photodiodes under the plastic [...]. It also has 2 cameras visible and integrated headphones. The padding on the back appears to be similar to the padding on Valve’s Knuckles controllers prototypes.

 

Opinion:

I have not yet got into the VR game and probably will not until it - if ever - hits the mainstream. However, a "new" player, especially of this magnitude is not a bad thing IMO, if it leads to more competition and innovation. Also, "knuckle" or proper finger tracking would be pretty sweet, not only for gaming but many professional use cases.

 

Source: https://uploadvr.com/valve-135-vr-headset-half-life/ 

 

also: https://www.golem.de/news/virtual-reality-valve-arbeitet-an-vr-headset-und-half-life-titel-1811-137643.html (German)

https://www.techradar.com/news/half-life-3-may-be-in-vr-and-coming-to-a-new-valve-headset

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I'm sorry but I'm reporting this thread for clickbait.

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alright alright, im reverting the order ^^ Just thought the HL3 thing was such a meme as of now that people could laugh it offalright alright, im reverting the order ^^ Just thought the HL3 thing was such a meme as of now that people could laugh it off

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If the price is right which it looks like they are aiming for with these headsets. Hopefully it's still high res and high refresh rate. 

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

If the price is right which it looks like they are aiming for with these headsets. Hopefully it's still high res and high refresh rate. 

Why do you think it will be a cheap(er) headset? If the resolution is on par with any of the 'Pro' headsets (or simply above the standard Vive) and includes a novel feature (finger tracking) I doubt it will hardly be a steal..

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56 minutes ago, Speakerator said:

Why do you think it will be a cheap(er) headset? If the resolution is on par with any of the 'Pro' headsets (or simply above the standard Vive) and includes a novel feature (finger tracking) I doubt it will hardly be a steal..

All major HMDs have dropped in price because the tech has been out for a while. I would probably guess $399-$499

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Judging by the build quality of the Steam controller... 

 

I'm sure it'll be great. 

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Did the Vive Pro ever happen? I heard about the pre-orders but is anyone even using that yet let alone this

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interesting video on the subject 

 

 

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On 11/12/2018 at 7:13 PM, rcmaehl said:

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I hope its light and comfortable.

so far I tried all VR headsets and the rift seems to be the best comfort / quality .

vive too big and heavy even but amazing tracking
Samsung mr is too bad tracking but comfortable 
the rift somehow its in the middle .

playstation vr don't even consider as an option even tho its easy to setup compared to other options with less bugs but still the tracking and resolution are low , its more like a gimmick.

so the vive is what I use mainly but its very expensive :

1- htc vive 
2- audio strap
3- wireless adapter 

it will cost a lot .
not wireless isn't an option the cable so fragile and break very often.
without audio strap its very uncomfortable also need add cost for good headphones.


:/ I think VR in general still far from mainstream for another 3-5 years.
maybe after 5 years it will be common like consoles so everyone have 1 at home.

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Folks.

 

Get ready for Valve VR Headset 2 launching 5 years later.

 

Followed by Valve VR Headset "More than two but less than four" stuck in indefinite development with teasers and rumors following after Valve VR Headset 2.

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For me I start with the "There's no way I'm not gonna spend $1,000 on a system."

Followed by the "Wow I need to buy the OS for a $100!?"

Then "Let's start with the 'best budget GPU' and 'best budget CPU' that actually fits what I think is my budget."

Realizing my budget is a lot less, I work my way to "I think these new games will run on a cheap ass CPU."

Then end with "The new parts launching next year is probably gonna be better and faster for the same price so I'll just buy next year."

 

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4 hours ago, 1988fido said:

it will cost a lot .
not wireless isn't an option the cable so fragile and break very often.
without audio strap its very uncomfortable also need add cost for good headphones.

Apart from the initial cost (got it failry early on), I haven't found an issue with either the 2nd or 3rd point. I've stepped on the cable dozens of times each session with and without shoes, thrown it around, pulled on it and never had an issue with it. The comfort level is also allright for me. The main issue with the soft padding is the sweat in my experience, though it can feel a little bit front heavy at times, but nothing that really pulls me out of the game.

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I hope this goes a more “budget friendly” (like 200-300 USD still expensive but more mainstream) route. I’m personally gonna hold out on VR until this comes out. I’ve been debating Windows mixed reality for a while just because it’s a great budget offer, but I simply don’t have the space at the moment.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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2 hours ago, tikker said:

Apart from the initial cost (got it failry early on), I haven't found an issue with either the 2nd or 3rd point. I've stepped on the cable dozens of times each session with and without shoes, thrown it around, pulled on it and never had an issue with it. The comfort level is also allright for me. The main issue with the soft padding is the sweat in my experience, though it can feel a little bit front heavy at times, but nothing that really pulls me out of the game. 

Still, the restriction of a cable has to go at some point. It's just hard, wireless connections can just barely handle current resolutions, and you need significantly higher resolution for next-gen headsets. Not to mention wireless adds a lot of cost.

 

As for comfort and convenience, the Vive is very much a first-gen product there. Maybe not a big deal for an early adopter, but it needs to get improved before it goes to a wider audience. Built-in headphones is mandatory, having to fiddle with a separate headset is stupid. The Vive Pro fixed this and Valve's got it on their prototype as well.

 

1 hour ago, DrDerp said:

I hope this goes a more “budget friendly” (like 200-300 USD still expensive but more mainstream) route. I’m personally gonna hold out on VR until this comes out. I’ve been debating Windows mixed reality for a while just because it’s a great budget offer, but I simply don’t have the space at the moment.

Understandable, but I think $200 is asking for too much. Even $300 is pretty tough to hit with a good piece of hardware. If you go too cheap it can end up ruining the experience. But at least Valve is in a much better financial position than HTC, so they're much more capable of aggressive pricing.

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7 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Still, the restriction of a cable has to go at some point. It's just hard, wireless connections can just barely handle current resolutions, and you need significantly higher resolution for next-gen headsets. Not to mention wireless adds a lot of cost.

 

As for comfort and convenience, the Vive is very much a first-gen product there. Maybe not a big deal for an early adopter, but it needs to get improved before it goes to a wider audience. Built-in headphones is mandatory, having to fiddle with a separate headset is stupid. The Vive Pro fixed this and Valve's got it on their prototype as well.

Yeah the cable is definitely a limiter that needs to be released. I personally don't have issues with using my own headphones or earbuds, but the audio strap does look nice.

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5 hours ago, Sakkura said:

Understandable, but I think $200 is asking for too much. Even $300 is pretty tough to hit with a good piece of hardware. If you go too cheap it can end up ruining the experience. But at least Valve is in a much better financial position than HTC, so they're much more capable of aggressive pricing.

I didn’t realize until just now that this is a wireless device. However; the pricing of more budget oriented devices for VR isn’t too bad, I’m debating on investing in it myself like I said.

Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs?

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8 hours ago, tikker said:

Apart from the initial cost (got it failry early on), I haven't found an issue with either the 2nd or 3rd point. I've stepped on the cable dozens of times each session with and without shoes, thrown it around, pulled on it and never had an issue with it. The comfort level is also allright for me. The main issue with the soft padding is the sweat in my experience, though it can feel a little bit front heavy at times, but nothing that really pulls me out of the game.

thats because you have the original Cable

i have done tons of research and I can prove it to you with pictures . i even stripped the cables and vive did make 4 different cables only 2 of them decent the other 2 made very cheap on purpose to milk more money as consumable product.

they even changed the Red mere chip inside and 1 of them don't have chip at all.
the cable comes with the headset out of the box is the most durable one , i work with vr and have more than 20 htc vives if I tell you that i have to replace around 20 cables a month ? u will believe it ? but the cable that comes in the box lasts 6 months !?

stepping on the cable isnt the major damaging point , its more like twisting it
and the strap have crappy soldering job the ear cups have very very very thin wire barley soldered to the pcb so very easily it will come off also funny thing their foams are not replaceable unlike face mask which ones you wear a lot or sweet its game over have to buy new strap not just a foam.

i am talking from 4 years + in VR :

vive is the best we have but its not a good device at all , not commercially nor personal home use ( and commercial version is same as the consumer one with few things different that doesn't effect its durability )

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15 hours ago, 1988fido said:

thats because you have the original Cable

i have done tons of research and I can prove it to you with pictures . i even stripped the cables and vive did make 4 different cables only 2 of them decent the other 2 made very cheap on purpose to milk more money as consumable product.

they even changed the Red mere chip inside and 1 of them don't have chip at all.
the cable comes with the headset out of the box is the most durable one , i work with vr and have more than 20 htc vives if I tell you that i have to replace around 20 cables a month ? u will believe it ? but the cable that comes in the box lasts 6 months !?

stepping on the cable isnt the major damaging point , its more like twisting it
and the strap have crappy soldering job the ear cups have very very very thin wire barley soldered to the pcb so very easily it will come off also funny thing their foams are not replaceable unlike face mask which ones you wear a lot or sweet its game over have to buy new strap not just a foam.

i am talking from 4 years + in VR :

vive is the best we have but its not a good device at all , not commercially nor personal home use ( and commercial version is same as the consumer one with few things different that doesn't effect its durability )

Punctuation much? I didn't know the cable quality differed, as I've never had an issue with it, nor did I read about other people having issues, but maybe that's then because of the first year or so. I can't speak for the audio strap, as I'm perfectly find with (and prefer) my own headphones.

I disagree the the Vive isn't good at all though. It think it's a decent device. VR in general just isn't ready for the general consumer market in my opinion.

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14 hours ago, tikker said:

Punctuation much? I didn't know the cable quality differed, as I've never had an issue with it, nor did I read about other people having issues, but maybe that's then because of the first year or so. I can't speak for the audio strap, as I'm perfectly find with (and prefer) my own headphones.

I disagree the the Vive isn't good at all though. It think it's a decent device. VR in general just isn't ready for the general consumer market in my opinion.

Can confirm that Vive has problems with the 3-in-1-cable, which is just piece of crap (some of them you can just bend 90-degrees and the sleeve starts to fall appart and if you happen to snap it or step on it so it bends sharply, you most probably need a new one). The old heavy cable, or more like 3 cables as one, is very good.

 

And it's not just that 3-in-1-cable that has problems. I have Vive from the time when they were upgrading the package to include the 3-in-1-cable but I don't have it, but I have newer controller charging cables and both of them are deteriorated to the point of being basicly unusable. Also the included HDMI cable ment to be from PC to link box has hardened. And it's not only Vive that HTC has problems, my HTC U11s charging cable has same deterioration as the controller cables.

 

And very good choice to steer away from the "deluxe" audio strap. I was kind of pumped up when it came and bought it, but as many others who got the first batch shi... stuff, the foams just flaked off when you even looked at it in the box while sweating.

 

It's also very nice of HTC to offer only the 3-in-1-cable today. So if you happen to have the older cable, don't fucking break it!

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3 hours ago, Thaldor said:

Can confirm that Vive has problems with the 3-in-1-cable, which is just piece of crap (some of them you can just bend 90-degrees and the sleeve starts to fall appart and if you happen to snap it or step on it so it bends sharply, you most probably need a new one). The old heavy cable, or more like 3 cables as one, is very good.

 

And it's not just that 3-in-1-cable that has problems. I have Vive from the time when they were upgrading the package to include the 3-in-1-cable but I don't have it, but I have newer controller charging cables and both of them are deteriorated to the point of being basicly unusable. Also the included HDMI cable ment to be from PC to link box has hardened. And it's not only Vive that HTC has problems, my HTC U11s charging cable has same deterioration as the controller cables.

 

And very good choice to steer away from the "deluxe" audio strap. I was kind of pumped up when it came and bought it, but as many others who got the first batch shi... stuff, the foams just flaked off when you even looked at it in the box while sweating.

 

It's also very nice of HTC to offer only the 3-in-1-cable today. So if you happen to have the older cable, don't fucking break it!

Still got it. Yeah the 3-in-1 cable does look thinner somehow than the original one. I guess I was lucky being an early adopter :D

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