What is the best video editing/ 3d modeling build for $3k

[ConCuaKhi]

1. Budget and Location: ~$3,000 and US

2. Aim: Video Editing and 3D Modeling

3. Monitors: I have them already and they're Dual Monitors

4. Peripherals: I have mouse and keyboard Already. I need an OS (Windows 10)

5. Why?: My current build can't handle my current needs with my projects and future projects.

 

    I don't have much a background on computer builds and what parts do what. But I'm looking for the best possible build with my budget and my needs.

I work primarily in Adobe Premiere and After Effects aswell as 3d modeling in Maya. I have a pretty flexible budget of $3,000 dollars. My biggest goal is reliability and render speed. I don't plan on rendering 10 things at once but I do plan on jumping between programs while working. I also would love to be able to handle live scrubbing. Where I can scrub through the timeline fast enough w the effects I put on the footage.

I asked the discord for some input and got great information, but I do think making a topic would help as well.

As for the Case, I really don't care for looks, if anything I prefer a case that doesn't attract too much attention. I just need a case that'll keep the build adequately cool.

 

Thanks!

[Cereal5]

Pretty much anything you want lol. I’m not entirely sure how Adobe uses cores/hardware acceleration, but since you have the budget you’re probably best going with a threadripper based system cause... why not. You could just go with an r7 2700X though if you want to stay more mainstream. A couple high capacity SSDs, maybe an RTX 2070 (again I don’t know how Adobe uses hardware acceleration).

[ConCuaKhi]

16 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Pretty much anything you want lol. I’m not entirely sure how Adobe uses cores/hardware acceleration, but since you have the budget you’re probably best going with a threadripper based system cause... why not. You could just go with an r7 2700X though if you want to stay more mainstream. A couple high capacity SSDs, maybe an RTX 2070 (again I don’t know how Adobe uses hardware acceleration).

I've been told by Hei and from other people that premiere doesn't work well with too many cores but I'm not sure how different the performance would be with a threadripper

[FloRolf]

Iirc some Adobe product highly benefit from Intels iGPUs because they can accelerate processing a lot. You'd have to check exactly for the Programms you are running.

[Princess Luna]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.43 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($293.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($589.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($87.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra 3D 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($321.88 @ B&H)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra 3D 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($321.88 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.06 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro French CDN - DVD 64-bit  ($15.00)
Total: $3221.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-11 15:19 EST-0500

 

This is the most overkill workstation I can think of for the about budget of 3k for all the software you plan on using, the P4000 Quadro will beat any GTX variance on 3d modeling while still giving that Cuda Acceleration Adobe loves.

The i9 9900K will outperform the Ryzen 7 2700X or even a Threadripper 2950X on Adobe specific applications due to the iGPU acceleration alongside CUDA.

[ConCuaKhi]

3 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Iirc some Adobe product highly benefit from Intels iGPUs because they can accelerate processing a lot. You'd have to check exactly for the Programms you are running.

Yeah I was also told that thanks

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.43 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($293.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($589.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($87.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra 3D 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($321.88 @ B&H)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra 3D 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($321.88 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P4000 8 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.06 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro French CDN - DVD 64-bit  ($15.00)
Total: $3221.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-11 15:19 EST-0500

 

This is the most overkill workstation I can think of for the about budget of 3k for all the software you plan on using, the P4000 Quadro will beat any GTX variance on 3d modeling while still giving that Cuda Acceleration Adobe loves.

The i9 9900K will outperform the Ryzen 7 2700X or even a Threadripper 2950X on Adobe specific applications due to the iGPU acceleration alongside CUDA.

Yeah I think I got a little caught up in the threadripper hype an intel seems to fit my workflow a little bit better. Is there any compatitbility issues with an i9? 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, ConCuaKhi said:

Yeah I think I got a little caught up in the threadripper hype an intel seems to fit my workflow a little bit better. Is there any compatitbility issues with an i9? 

Adobe and Intel walks hand in hand, you'll most likely find compatibility issues with AMD rather, major issue with the build is the fact the i9 9900K is widely out of stock worldwide.

[FloRolf]

10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

the P4000 Quadro will beat any GTX variance on 3d modeling 

Do you happen to have a source for this though? 

[ConCuaKhi]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Adobe and Intel walks hand in hand, you'll most likely find compatibility issues with AMD rather, major issue with the build is the fact the i9 9900K is widely out of stock worldwide.

Oh that's friggin fantastic, also as for the i9, I'm planning one getting the parts soon is there a compromise for the i9? Like a previous version or something that I can get my hands on that doesn't sacrifice much performance?

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Do you happen to have a source for this though? 

Highly depends on the level of professional work you'll handle.

My brother used mainstream cards from the Maxwell TITAN X and 1080 Ti which proved to be unreliable when rendering scenes for an entire day unstop, the P4000 has built in ECC that solves the issue, drivers and reliability has it's worth when you're handling Paid work.

 

Furthermore Quadro drivers are filled with extra features not present on GTX ones such as Viewport 2.0 and NVIDIA® Mental Ray® etc which means more performance from the software side of things rather than hardware sheer numbers of cuda cores:

 

It is surprisingly hard to find comparisons but it usually goes like his

 

The difference is there, but like said it depends on your use, these cards are obviously not going to be powerful beasts in Gaming but I doubt that's what he's after here when he's paying 3k for a workstation for professional usage.

[ConCuaKhi]

18 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Highly depends on the level of professional work you'll handle.

My brother used mainstream cards from the Maxwell TITAN X and 1080 Ti which proved to be unreliable when rendering scenes for an entire day unstop, the P4000 has built in ECC that solves the issue, drivers and reliability has it's worth when you're handling Paid work.

 

Furthermore Quadro drivers are filled with extra features not present on GTX ones such as Viewport 2.0 and NVIDIA® Mental Ray® etc which means more performance from the software side of things rather than hardware sheer numbers of cuda cores:

 

It is surprisingly hard to find comparisons but it usually goes like his

 

The difference is there, but like said it depends on your use, these cards are obviously not going to be powerful beasts in Gaming but I doubt that's what he's after here when he's paying 3k for a workstation for professional usage.

I am planning on zero gaming, I haven't played games for the past couple years besides console based game

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, ConCuaKhi said:

I am planning on zero gaming, I haven't played games for the past couple years besides console based game

A P4000 is on level of a GTX 1070 for gaming, which makes sense as they share similar CUDA Cores count on Pascal Architecture, but there is more to it than just the cores as explained, it obviously is AWFUL value for gaming or mining, but on the right content creation software it makes it's value.

 

Wish ya good luck with your work and build.

[Cereal5]

40 minutes ago, ConCuaKhi said:

Oh that's friggin fantastic, also as for the i9, I'm planning one getting the parts soon is there a compromise for the i9? Like a previous version or something that I can get my hands on that doesn't sacrifice much performance?

An 8700K/8086K and 9700K will plug directly into whatever board he put in that build, since they’re both compatible with Z370 and Z390 chipsets. The 9700K will probably be similarly hard to find though. Up to you whether you want to wait for a 9900K or not. Best bet would be to try to get one on order so when they come in you’re guaranteed one

[ConCuaKhi]

22 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

A P4000 is on level of a GTX 1070 for gaming, which makes sense as they share similar CUDA Cores count on Pascal Architecture, but there is more to it than just the cores as explained, it obviously is AWFUL value for gaming or mining, but on the right content creation software it makes it's value.

 

Wish ya good luck with your work and build.

Thank you so much man, I really appreciate it

12 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

An 8700K/8086K and 9700K will plug directly into whatever board he put in that build, since they’re both compatible with Z370 and Z390 chipsets. The 9700K will probably be similarly hard to find though. Up to you whether you want to wait for a 9900K or not. Best bet would be to try to get one on order so when they come in you’re guaranteed one

Oh okay thank you, I'll probably choose one of the three you said, I am on sort of a time crunch