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i7-7700 to i5 8th/9th gen

Dyepoy
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I got this i7 7700 right now. Is it worth changing it to i5 8th gen series? 

 

My initial plan was to get a motherboard with wifi and bluetooth built in it. Since the price of 7th gen motherboards is the same as 8th gen's. I consider changing the processor too. 

 

Is it worth it from 4C/8T to 6C/6T?

 

P.S. I don't overclock so I might go with i5-8400 or i5-8600. And my PC is only used for gaming and light video editing.

 

My current setup is in my signature. I might only sell the CPU and the motherboard.

 

Rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 7700 | Motherboard: Asus Maximus IX Code | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 2x8Gb 3000Mhz RGB |

GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X | PSU: Seasonic PX650 | Case: Phanteks P400S |

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo (OS Drive) & Samsung PM981 (Game Drive)

 

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No, it ain't worth it, the i7 7700 is comparable to the i5 8400 already, you will see barely no performance increase at all with an i5 8600...

 

And i7 8700 would make more sense as it will boost 200mhz higher than the i7 7700 on all cores while giving you those 2 extra cores alongside Hyper-Threading also.

 

Then again for gaming you'll remain limited by your GPU, and productivity it'll depend on what you do with the system, if it's just common desktop usage; probably not worth it.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No, it ain't worth it, the i7 7700 is comparable to the i5 8400 already, you will see barely no performance increase at all with an i5 8600...

 

And i7 8700 would make more sense as it will boost 200mhz higher than the i7 7700 on all cores while giving you those 2 extra cores alongside Hyper-Threading also.

 

Then again for gaming you'll remain limited by your GPU, and productivity it'll depend on what you do with the system, if it's just common desktop usage; probably not worth it.

I see, I looked up online and see that used i7 8700s are priced as same as a new 8600k. I might consider buying that. Thanks for heads up! :) I'll also go for the ASUS Z390 TUF Gaming Wifi motherboard. :)

Rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 7700 | Motherboard: Asus Maximus IX Code | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 2x8Gb 3000Mhz RGB |

GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X | PSU: Seasonic PX650 | Case: Phanteks P400S |

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo (OS Drive) & Samsung PM981 (Game Drive)

 

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Why do you keep buying high end Z chipsets when you keep buying locked cpus? the only purpose of the higher end chipsets and motherboards is to overclock

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Why do you keep buying high end Z chipsets when you keep buying locked cpus? the only purpose of the higher end chipsets and motherboards is to overclock

Need a Z chipset to run ram above CPU rated speed also. I never saw that much price difference between a Z an a H anyway, unless you go really low end.

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Streaming system: Asus X299 TUF mark 2, i9-7920X, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 8x8GB, Gigabyte 2070, Corsair HX1000i, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 970 Evo 500GB, Crucial BX500 1TB, BenQ XL2411 1080p144 + HP LP2475w 1200p60
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18 minutes ago, porina said:

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Might as well get the i7 8700K and enable MCE with a modest aftermarket cooler since as stated pricing is hardly that apart.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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4 hours ago, Dyepoy said:

I got this i7 7700 right now. Is it worth changing it to i5 8th gen ...

 

Is it worth it from 4C/8T to 6C/6T?

 

with that change you will not notice the change, that's for sure. If the change was for i7 8700, i7 8700k, the thing changes.

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23 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Might as well get the i7 8700K and enable MCE with a modest aftermarket cooler since as stated pricing is hardly that apart.

I do buy K parts and generally run them stock 24/7, although I don't do MCE.

 

The like for like H and Z mobo price difference really is insignificant. Looking at one UK retailer I use, the low end Z370 ATX boards are actually cheaper than the low end H370 ATX boards. You have to go to microATX H370 boards to barely get cheaper than ATX Z370. 8700 vs 8700k price gap is much more significant.

TV Gaming system: Asus B560M-A, i7-11700k, Scythe Fuma 2, Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200@2133 4x16GB, MSI 3070 Gaming Trio X, EVGA Supernova G2L 850W, Anidees Ai Crystal, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, LG OLED55B9PLA 4k120 G-Sync Compatible
Streaming system: Asus X299 TUF mark 2, i9-7920X, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 8x8GB, Gigabyte 2070, Corsair HX1000i, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 970 Evo 500GB, Crucial BX500 1TB, BenQ XL2411 1080p144 + HP LP2475w 1200p60
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1 minute ago, porina said:

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I had in mind entry level b360 instead though, I find the h370 chipset to not make sense as a product, it's weird placed in between these 2 that makes sense, much like an i5 8500 for instance that has no real reason to exist.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I had in mind entry level b360 instead though, I find the h370 chipset to not make sense as a product, it's weird placed in between these 2 that makes sense, much like an i5 8500 for instance that has no real reason to exist.

I hadn't looked at low, but I'm seeing a similar pattern on ATX boards, same price ball park as H370/Z370. MicroATX it starts to get cheaper but we still talking about less than a Hyper 212 difference in it... maybe not a fair comparison, I'm comparing lowest cost across the ranges, not checking if they are feature equivalent too. e.g. if the lower chipset boards might put more different features in.

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Streaming system: Asus X299 TUF mark 2, i9-7920X, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB 3000 8x8GB, Gigabyte 2070, Corsair HX1000i, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 970 Evo 500GB, Crucial BX500 1TB, BenQ XL2411 1080p144 + HP LP2475w 1200p60
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion, 5800H, DDR4 3200C22 2x8GB, RTX 3070, SK Hynix 512 GB + Crucial P1 TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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I've done a little browsing online. I've seen flagship z270 maximus boards priced at $200 new. Should I go with that instead of changing platform? The wifi and bluetooth is all I need but performance-wise, I'm still good with my 7700. :)

Rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 7700 | Motherboard: Asus Maximus IX Code | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 2x8Gb 3000Mhz RGB |

GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X | PSU: Seasonic PX650 | Case: Phanteks P400S |

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo (OS Drive) & Samsung PM981 (Game Drive)

 

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16 minutes ago, Dyepoy said:

I've done a little browsing online. I've seen flagship z270 maximus boards priced at $200 new. Should I go with that instead of changing platform? The wifi and bluetooth is all I need but performance-wise, I'm still good with my 7700. :)

What? Why on earths would you buy a new motherboard of the Exact same chipset you already own? Motherboards do NOT add or reduce performance, they only allow you to overclock further or not depending on their settings.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

What? Why on earths would you buy a new motherboard of the Exact same chipset you already own? Motherboards do NOT add or reduce performance, they only allow you to overclock further or not depending on their settings.

Just like I said, I need wifi and bluetooth. My current motherboard doesn't have that. 

Rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 7700 | Motherboard: Asus Maximus IX Code | RAM: G. Skill Trident Z 2x8Gb 3000Mhz RGB |

GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X | PSU: Seasonic PX650 | Case: Phanteks P400S |

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo (OS Drive) & Samsung PM981 (Game Drive)

 

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Just now, Dyepoy said:

Just like I said, I need wifi and bluetooth. My current motherboard doesn't have that. 

Get a cheapo TP-Link PCI-e wireless card then

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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The 4c/8t i7s are comparable in performance to the 6 core Coffee Lake i5s, it would not be worth the hassle or the expense to switch platforms to one. Furthermore, your processor is plenty for your current graphics card and can handle gpus up to around the 1080-1080 ti level, so if gaming is your primary concern, there really isn't any reason to justify the switch. Regarding the Wifi situation, just go with what @Princess Cadence said, and pick up a PCI-E wireless card.

Main PC :

CPU = R9 3900X / Motherboard = Asus Crosshair 8 Hero / GPU = EVGA SC Ultra RTX 2060 / RAM = Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 ( 32GB ) / Cooling = Dark Rock Pro 4 / Storage = Western Digital Caviar Blue ( X4 ) Crucial 500GB NVME, 500 GB 970 EVO/ PSU = Seasonic X-850 Modular / Case = Corsair Carbide 200R

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