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EVGA RTX 2070 Black or MSI RTX 2070 Armor?

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This is first time in my life buying a gaming GPU. I was only playing on consoles so it is Hard for me to deiced to go with any of these:

 

EVGA RTX 2070 Black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487413&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-487-413-_-Product

 

MSI RTX 2070 Armor

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137366&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-137-366-_-Product

 

Both are not OC if needed i will OC the card later when if needed. the only differences i noticed is MSI card has small RGB and Back-plate, other things should be the same.

 

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5 minutes ago, Letme said:

This is first time in my life buying a gaming GPU. I was only playing on consoles so it is Hard for me to deiced to go with any of these:

 

EVGA RTX 2070 Black

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487413&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-487-413-_-Product

 

MSI RTX 2070 Armor

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137366&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-137-366-_-Product

 

Both are not OC if needed i will OC the card later when if needed. the only differences i noticed is MSI card has small RGB and Back-plate, other things should be the same.

 

Thanks,

Never go with the armor interpretation of MSI. Not so good cooling.

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https://youtu.be/eZJcXHOn42Y?t=117


Watch from 1:57. He's saying 2070 black is better than other low end 2070-models, for example Gigabyte.

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Just now, Settlerteo said:

Never go with the armor interpretation of MSI. Not so good cooling.

The armor series has been upgraded this gen though. 20-series armor is cooling way better than Pascal armor.

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2 minutes ago, Settlerteo said:

Never go with the armor interpretation of MSI. Not so good cooling. 

not this model rtx 2070, it is really good not like older models.

2 minutes ago, Tech Wizard said:

https://youtu.be/eZJcXHOn42Y?t=117


Watch from 1:57. He's saying 2070 black is better than other low end 2070-models, for example Gigabyte.

Yeah i saw the full review for this video. And the card is good it seems.

1 minute ago, Tech Wizard said:

The armor series has been upgraded this gen though. 20-series armor is cooling way better than Pascal armor.

true.

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I think they are neck and neck tbh. Go with the one that you think looks best.

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MSI cards have always seemed meh to me. Like they just kind of put some fans on a card and call it "gaming" or some fancy word. I guess you can say that about any manufacturer, but I've had multiple MSI cards and they've all been solidly... normal I guess.

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have not purchased one in my life, neither any brand so even EVGA i am not recommending, but still MSI card did not hit Amazon yet, the non-OC one. i will wait till next week if it does not come i will go with EVGA.

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evga gets a strong recommendation from me as a 1070 ti sc gaming user. you can even overclock it without bricking your warrenty

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

evga gets a strong recommendation from me as a 1070 ti sc gaming user. you can even overclock it without bricking your warrenty

OC is not on the table right now because my PSU is only 500w. But yeah that would be even better if the Warranty includes also OC. But does their warranty covered International?

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2 minutes ago, Letme said:

OC is not on the table right now because my PSU is only 500w. But yeah that would be even better if the Warranty includes also OC. But does their warranty covered International?

as far as I know yes, and according to some users here the service is great too. and i'm overclocking on a 550 watt psu

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New design for MSI or not. I still don't 100% trust the budget MSI coolers. EVGA has never dissapointed me though.

 

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Get a used GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti instead lf the 2070.

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Neither the 2070 you want is the evga 2070xc ultra

But I'd hold off for now due to the drivers problems. 

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38 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Get a used GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti instead lf the 2070.

our market is really really really bad, you can find something like 1070ti in price of new 1080. or new 1070 for 590 USD. buying from ebay is a bad idea as well because of shipping charges.

 

i.e. New:

https://www.blink.com.kw/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-1060-WINDFORCE-OC-6G

1060 the same cost as 1080 new.

 

i.e. of used:

https://olx.com.kw/ad/geforce-evga-gtx-1070sc-8gb-ID6NIiQ.html

 

 

so it cheaper for me to buy it from amazon.

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