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Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R versus EVGA CLC 280

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Can I compare these two charts directly?  They are from Tom's Hardware. 

 

The results seem to indicate unknown (to me) conditions that would make a direct comparison inaccurate.  

 

I am looking at purchasing the EVGA CLC or the Cooler Master MasterLiquid.  

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Just now, Slottr said:

Between those two, EVGA for sure.

I have the CLC 280 on my R7 2700X, and CLC 120 on my R5 1600, both are awesome coolers. 

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2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I have the CLC 280 on my R7 2700X, and CLC 120 on my R5 1600, both are awesome coolers. 

What temps do you see in which uses?  Can you do a Cinebench run and make note of the speed and voltage?  Score doesn't need to be noted.  I would appreciate it immensely.  

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4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I have the CLC 280 on my R7 2700X, and CLC 120 on my R5 1600, both are awesome coolers. 

What temps do you get with that cooler?

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My concern is that all three smaller coolers (on the EVGA chart) outperform the larger coolers (on the Cooler Master chart).  It gives the impression there was some unknown condition making all those smaller coolers appear to perform better.  

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4 minutes ago, nick name said:

What temps do you see in which uses?  Can you do a Cinebench run and make note of the speed and voltage?  Score doesn't need to be noted.  I would appreciate it immensely.  

 

4 minutes ago, Cyberspirit said:

What temps do you get with that cooler?

I can hit upper 70s - sometimes the 80s with my R7 2700X if it spikes suddenly or especially if it's on stock settings. The 2700X has a totally nuts boost feature that totally violates the TDP and voltage settings to boost higher if at all possible, so it's a toasty chip. (still not as toasty as my 5GHz 8600K that hits 83C on an NH-D15S, which is about equal to a 240mm AIO) 

On the R5 1600, haven't seen it get much over 60 at all, even rendering stuff in blender for 4-6 hours or so. It usually stays in the 40s-50s. 

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1 minute ago, nick name said:

My concern is that all three smaller coolers (on the EVGA chart) outperform the larger coolers (on the Cooler Master chart).  It gives the impression there was some unknown condition making all those smaller coolers appear to perform better.  

Check this review out by GamersNexus:

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4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 

I can hit upper 70s - sometimes the 80s with my R7 2700X if it spikes suddenly or especially if it's on stock settings. The 2700X has a totally nuts boost feature that totally violates the TDP and voltage settings to boost higher if at all possible, so it's a toasty chip. (still not as toasty as my 5GHz 8600K that hits 83C on an NH-D15S, which is about equal to a 240mm AIO) 

On the R5 1600, haven't seen it get much over 60 at all, even rendering stuff in blender for 4-6 hours or so. It usually stays in the 40s-50s. 

Do you know what the speed is and the voltage?

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4 minutes ago, Cyberspirit said:

Check this review out by GamersNexus:

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Thank you.  I have read their review also.  

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11 minutes ago, nick name said:

Do you know what the speed is and the voltage?

Stock on the R5 1600, and 4.0GHz/1.4v on the R7 IIRC (the voltage is so high cause I had it at 4.25 but dropped it down to 4 for rendering some stuff because I haven't quite got it stable yet). 

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8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Stock on the R5 1600, and 4.0GHz/1.4v on the R7 IIRC (the voltage is so high cause I had it at 4.25 but dropped it down to 4 for rendering some stuff because I haven't quite got it stable yet). 

Thank you for that.  Would you describe the room the PC is in as warm?  I get into the 80*C range at 4.25GHz and 1.39V when my room is warm.  Around 85*F warm.  I am currently using a Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing 360 AIO, but I came by it second-hand.  It was installed in a used PC that I parted out and sold.  I kept the AIO because I assumed nobody would buy a used AIO on eBay.  It seems to be performing well enough, but I don't know its exact age and worry about its warranty and life-span.  

 

I wonder how an EVGA Asetek AIO seems to perform so much better than other brands' Asetek AIOs.  I would assume they would all be nearly the same.  

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11 minutes ago, nick name said:

Thank you for that.  Would you describe the room the PC is in as warm?  I get into the 80*C range at 4.25GHz and 1.39V when my room is warm.  Around 85*F warm.  I am currently using a Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing 360 AIO, but I came by it second-hand.  It was installed in a used PC that I parted out and sold.  I kept the AIO because I assumed nobody would buy a used AIO on eBay.  It seems to be performing well enough, but I don't know its exact age and worry about its warranty and life-span.  

 

I wonder how an EVGA Asetek AIO seems to perform so much better than other brands' Asetek AIOs.  I would assume they would all be nearly the same.  

My room is usually pretty cool, I did hit 85C on the stock cooler, but not on the AIO. 

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Project Rig (WIP) - Xeon I forgot the name of - NH-L12S - EVGA X99 Micro 2 - 4x4GB 2800MHz DDR4 - WX2100 2GB - 256GB 960 Evo - Flex-ATX PSU - Old Dell OEM case - Noctua 80mm fans - probably will be windows

 

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  • 5 months later...

I’m interested in the 360 master cooler as well, I just love how it looks .. but does it perform as good or worse than the evga ?

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  • 1 year later...

I ordered the ML360R a few days ago and now before it arrived I'ved opened a return.  This colorful AIO is sadly not Threadripper compatible. 

 

So EVGA CL36 for me. 

 

 

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