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Why is my GPU running at X4

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Yeah this is because the GT 1030 has only 4x PCIe connection by design. I have a GT 1030 in one of my PC's I was wondering the same thing when it was showing up as x4. Took me a while to work out it wasn't the slot and that it was built that way by the manufacturer.

 

It's super confusing because most GT 1030's actually have a x16 slot connector, but not all the pins are actually wired up and connected!!

 

Not all GT 1030 are 4x, but most are, take a look at newegg to see. Look at the info in the product description.

This is 4x in description: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125972&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-125-972-_-Product

So is this one (even says 4x in 16x): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137139&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-137-139-_-Product

This Looks like it's not 4x but might be an error: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932004&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-932-004-_-Product

This one actually has a 4x connector instead of 16x: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA73M8B24542&cm_re=Gt_1030-_-9SIA73M8B24542-_-Product

 

If you look on GPUDB you will see that it's only a 4x GPU by design It States: Bus Interface - PCIe 3.0 x4

 

There is no way for you to get it to go to 16x. It is physically impossible, if you take a close look at the connector you can see that there are no pcb traces from the last load of pins, they don't connect.

 

Really great of Nvidia to do this and not say anywhere official. But as far as I know it doesn't affect the performance so don't worry about it, nothing is broken, nothing is wrong with your motherboard.

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I7 3770

GT 1030

8gb of ram

3 drives

so i was looking up the spec sheet for my computer and it says its got  1 X16 slot

1 X4 Wired

The x16 is the blue 

and the X4 is the black .

and my card is in the blue one and i open up speccy and GPU-Z

and NVIDIA controlpanel and it says x4 

at one point it was x16 and it changed 

drivers updated to latest even tried the older drivers and tried even flashing the BIOS back 1 version on my pc

that didn't do anything and i don't know what to do i tried cleaning out the pcie slot and the cards pins but still says x4 yet the gt 1030 is a x16 card 

can someone help me with this it's kind of a big deal as i want to upgrade my gpu sooner or later to a 1050 or a 1050ti and if its running at x4

it will have a bottleneck and i really don't want that 

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Just now, Shimejii said:

Try all the slots out and see what works. What exactly is your mobo?

my motherboard is a OEM DELL MOBO

model 0GXM1W

and i did try all the slots

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1 minute ago, Shimejii said:

Good ol Dell OEM motherboards. See if in the BIOS one of the PCIE options is the bandwidth or slot choice. It should automatically detect but you may have something messed up

i reset the BIOS Twice cause of this and i don't know what to do

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Run the load test in GPU-Z. You should see it go to X16 as normal.

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7 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

Run the load test in GPU-Z. You should see it go to X16 as normal.

i did still x4

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Yeah this is because the GT 1030 has only 4x PCIe connection by design. I have a GT 1030 in one of my PC's I was wondering the same thing when it was showing up as x4. Took me a while to work out it wasn't the slot and that it was built that way by the manufacturer.

 

It's super confusing because most GT 1030's actually have a x16 slot connector, but not all the pins are actually wired up and connected!!

 

Not all GT 1030 are 4x, but most are, take a look at newegg to see. Look at the info in the product description.

This is 4x in description: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125972&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-125-972-_-Product

So is this one (even says 4x in 16x): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137139&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-137-139-_-Product

This Looks like it's not 4x but might be an error: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932004&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-932-004-_-Product

This one actually has a 4x connector instead of 16x: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA73M8B24542&cm_re=Gt_1030-_-9SIA73M8B24542-_-Product

 

If you look on GPUDB you will see that it's only a 4x GPU by design It States: Bus Interface - PCIe 3.0 x4

 

There is no way for you to get it to go to 16x. It is physically impossible, if you take a close look at the connector you can see that there are no pcb traces from the last load of pins, they don't connect.

 

Really great of Nvidia to do this and not say anywhere official. But as far as I know it doesn't affect the performance so don't worry about it, nothing is broken, nothing is wrong with your motherboard.

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6 minutes ago, Madgemade said:

Yeah this is because the GT 1030 has only 4x PCIe connection by design. I have a GT 1030 in one of my PC's I was wondering the same thing when it was showing up as x4. Took me a while to work out it wasn't the slot and that it was built that way by the manufacturer.

 

Not all GT 1030 are 4x, but most are, take a look at newegg to see. Look at the info in the product description.

This is 4x in description: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125972&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-125-972-_-Product

So is this one (even says 4x in x16): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137139&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-137-139-_-Product

This one looks like it's not: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814932004&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-932-004-_-Product

 

If you look on GPUDB you will see that it's only a 4x GPU by design It States: Bus Interface - PCIe 3.0 x4

 

There is no way for you to get it to go to 16x. It is physically impossible, if you take a close look at the connector you can see that there are no pcb traces from the last load of pins, they don't connect.

 

Really great of Nvidia to do this and not say anywhere official. But as far as I know it doesn't affect the performance so don't worry about it, nothing is broken, nothing is wrong with your motherboard.

thank you so much and yeah one of thoese cards are the ones i have so yeah

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Thanks. I thought I would give a lot of info as it's really confusing what they did with this card. Also they have models with DDR4 RAM (not the proper GDD5) that are really slow. Need to watch out for them too. Why they used 4x in 16x slot I don't know, I guess to save some money.

 

If you go to a GTX 1050 then you will get the 16x lanes showing up correctly. My friend upgraded to a GTX 1050 and he was happy so I would advise doing that in future. It doesn't need any power cables so great for OEM PC like yours (his is acer pc has no gpu power cables on a basic PSU).

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1 minute ago, Madgemade said:

Thanks. I thought I would give a lot of info as it's really confusing what they did with this card. Also they have models with DDR4 RAM (not the proper GDD5) that are really slow. Need to watch out for them too. Why they used 4x in 16x slot I don't know, I guess to save some money.

 

If you go to a GTX 1050 then you will get the 16x lanes showing up correctly. My friend upgraded to a GTX 1050 and he was happy so I would advise doing that in future. It doesn't need any power cables so great for OEM PC like yours (his is acer pc has no gpu power cables on a basic PSU).

mine only supplys 50w and it needs 75 but theres videos of it working on my pc so i will sooner or later maybe even a 1050 ti 

and ihave the GDDR5 model of the gt 1030 so 

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It running at 4x isn't an issue. The GT1030 isn't fast enough to need more than that. That is probably part of the reason they did it.

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I was thinking about the 1050 ti for my friend but I could only find models which needed one six pin power connector and his PSU doesn't have any. You can use molex to 6-pin adapter but that's not great because the PSU might not have enough power. I would stick with 1050 as the Ti isn't much that much faster but costs quite a bit more. When you think about upgrading you should post a thread with all the details of your PSU. My friends system has an FSP PSU which is a decent brand but someone posted a Dell system on here recently that had a low quality PSU so you need to be careful.

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

It running at 4x isn't an issue. The GT1030 isn't fast enough to need more than that. That is probably part of the reason they did it.

Exactly, Linus had a video a while back that showed 8x had only a little difference even on top end cards. So for this card I guess they looked at the actual bandwidth it was using and thought why not just lock it at 4x and save some silicon. Only problem is if the PC it's in is using PCIe version 1.1 or 2.0. In a PCIe 1.1 system it would have four times less bandwidth than 3.0 so pretty much would be running at PCIe 1x effective speed!

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