Picking mATX Z390 motherboard

[Pozmol]

Any idea which one of these would be "best" ?

 

ASUS TUF Z390M-PRO GAMING

GIGABYTE Z390 M GAMING

ASROCK Z390M Pro4

ASUS PRIME Z390M-PLUS

 

I plan to do maybe mild OC to like 5ghz. TUF one is the priciest and apart from more "gaming" look and mby couple more ports (which I do not really care about)

Gigabyte has most of "power phases" and conductors around CPU socket, which is good i assume ?

 

Anyway, please share your thoughts... This lineup of MOBOs does not look best and I was also thinking about looking into Z370 area.

 

[LukeSavenije]

do you need usb 3.1 gen 2 for something? and what chip are you going to use on it?

[Pozmol]

No, not really I was thinking more about not needing to update bios for the new CPU as I dont have mean to update it with older chip. Maybe I would find some friend who have 8th gen intel.

 

And yea, It is going to be 9600k.

 

upgrading from ryzen 1600 as it feels bit sluggish since i bought 1440p monitor.

[LukeSavenije]

why not getting a 2700(x)? way cheaper and no need for a new mobo. and with higher res gaming, the load is more on the gpu then on the cpu

 

and tag or quote me next time, then I can react faster

[Pozmol]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

why not getting a 2700(x)? way cheaper and no need for a new mobo. and with higher res gaming, the load is more on the gpu then on the cpu

 

and tag or quote me next time, then I can react faster

I have b350m mobo which, from what I have red, tend to have issues with 2xxx ryzen cpus in terms of power delivery. I wanted to finally experience Intel as so far I only had AMD cpus, and I would like to change it.

 

I am also thinking about waiting for ryzen 2, but thats for another years Q3 i think ... Maybe I am bit too hasty on upgrading, but I also want to get some value back from this chip as the prices are going quite low .

 

Yes I know that high rez and high ref gaming is more gpu bound. Just FYI I have gtx 1080 .

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Pozmol said:

OC to like 5ghz.

On what CPU exactly?

[Pozmol]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

On what CPU exactly?

9600k

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Pozmol said:

9600k

Frankly I don't think the i5 9600K overclocking makes much sense price to performance wise unless you're getting a GTX 1080 Ti / RTX 2080 / 2080 Ti and is going to play at 1080p144hz specifically.

 

It barely is that much faster than a Ryzen 5 2600X any more and at 1440p/4k you'll still be so GPU limited the CPU does not make a difference, and the i5 due to its lack of hyper-threading is significantly behind an actually cheaper Ryzen 7 2700 multi-threading wise.

 

If you want Intel a cheaper build that still makes somewhat sense is the locked i7 8700 on a b360 board.

 

If you totally must overclock the i5 9600K though I'd actually grab an Asus Z370M ROG Strix-G, it has decreased in price and is sufficient to overclock while featuring good enough stuff.

[Pozmol]

20 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Frankly I don't think the i5 9600K overclocking makes much sense price to performance wise unless you're getting a GTX 1080 Ti / RTX 2080 / 2080 Ti and is going to play at 1080p144hz specifically.

 

It barely is that much faster than a Ryzen 5 2600X any more and at 1440p/4k you'll still be so GPU limited the CPU does not make a difference, and the i5 due to its lack of hyper-threading is significantly behind an actually cheaper Ryzen 7 2700 multi-threading wise.

 

If you want Intel a cheaper build that still makes somewhat sense is the locked i7 8700 on a b360 board.

 

If you totally must overclock the i5 9600K though I'd actually grab an Asus Z370M ROG Strix-G, it has decreased in price and is sufficient to overclock while featuring good enough stuff.

It is more of a whim then a need. i hoped for atleast 10-15 fps gain which would be nice as I am usually around 100ish in most games on medium.

 

Should I wait for something better then ?

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Pozmol said:

i hoped for atleast 10-15 fps

First of all you should specify what GPU and what Display you're planning to pair it with.

[Pozmol]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

First of all you should specify what GPU and what Display you're planning to pair it with.

Oh , I thought I put gpu here...

 

I have gtx 1080, ryzen 1600 paired with 1400p 144hz dell s2716dg

[Princess Luna]

10 minutes ago, Pozmol said:

Oh , I thought I put gpu here...

 

I have gtx 1080, ryzen 1600 paired with 1400p 144hz dell s2716dg

Honestly speaking I'd not change any thing, the Ryzen 5 1600 if overclocked to 3.9ghz with 2933mhz or higher frequency memory is already enough for the GTX 1080 to reach it's full potential at 1440p.

 

That means that since the GPU is not being bottlenecked already, getting a new CPU will not magically give you extra 15fps because the CPU already isn't what's slowing down your GPU.

 

The only way to increase performance at 1440p now would be a faster GPU like I said a RTX 2080 Ti where the Ryzen 5 1600 may finally slow it down, even so it's eh...

 

Spoiler

These graphs are with a RTX 2080 Ti at 1440p, you can notice how little the CPU matters, with a 1080 it'll mater even less, sure you could decrease visual quality to medium/low but I don't really think the fps is worth it if you're at least above 60 all times already.

 

Long story short: you'll end up spending a lot of money for diminishing gains, I'd just keep saving up for a more meaningful/major upgrade next year when 7nm GPUs hit the market and mayhap Intel's long waited 10nm architecture.