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7 hours ago, TheAgnda said:

Nemesis 360GTX & 120GTX.

dude wants to be in the fluid gaming lineup,  and had read up on performance reviews and thinks the cost savings is worth it.

 

the difference in cost to make a loop with copper based part pieced together for his system is going to make the cost of the loop triple if not more,  He has taken into consideration the options out there, and you shouldn't try and force some one to spend money like that if they are looking into the fluid gaming line from a entirely cost saving perspective over traditional 'custom' loops that most of us with experience have/use(d)

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18 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

dude wants to be in the fluid gaming lineup,  and had read up on performance reviews and thinks the cost savings is worth it.

 

the difference in cost to make a loop with copper based part pieced together for his system is going to make the cost of the loop triple if not more,  He has taken into consideration the options out there, and you shouldn't try and force some one to spend money like that if they are looking into the fluid gaming line from a entirely cost saving perspective over traditional 'custom' loops that most of us with experience have/use(d)

Not a matter of "trying to force" anyone to do anything, the word you're looking for is "suggest".

According to his last post he's attempting to cool two 1080TIs and a 8700K on 360mm of under-performing radiator space. It's easily visible given the provided information that the least he's going to get away with without overheating is 480mm.

Do you have any information that indicates otherwise?

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12 minutes ago, TheAgnda said:

Not a matter of "trying to force" anyone to do anything, the word you're looking for is "suggest".

According to his last post he's attempting to cool two 1080TIs and a 8700K on 360mm of under-performing radiator space. It's easily visible given the provided information that the least he's going to get away with without overheating is 480mm.

Do you have any information that indicates otherwise? 

23 hours ago, Livinloud said:

I'm looking at the ek a240g or the 360 version and getting an extra gpu block and 120 rad. Fittings of course as well. Tubing going to try to use what comes with it. 

 

If his response's were not in-line with what suggested. I reference what transpired after he told me this, and i confirmed he was ok with it being Aluminum, and what that would do to the available parts he had to choose from to expand later down the line.

 

Im not saying the advice you giving is bad just that the OP is looking to save a few bucks (vs massive first time investment of a copper loop)

 

 

 

 

he also mentioned he can fit a 360 in his case with the 120, but would still only be able to put 2/3 fans on it

 

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1 hour ago, Neo-revo said:

 

If his response's were not in-line with what suggested. I reference what transpired after he told me this, and i confirmed he was ok with it being Aluminum, and what that would do to the available parts he had to choose from to expand later down the line.

 

Im not saying the advice you giving is bad just that the OP is looking to save a few bucks (vs massive first time investment of a copper loop)

 

 

 

 

he also mentioned he can fit a 360 in his case with the 120, but would still only be able to put 2/3 fans on it

 

Would a 360 still be beneficial if only 2 fans where on it? I would think yes because of more area space but a waste in price verse performance. I am going to go with a 280 and a 120. If needed to be I can put another 120 in in the future.

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12 minutes ago, Livinloud said:

120. If needed to be I can put another 120 in in the future.

yes it would better than just the 280 , the 360 with less fans,  (heat saturation quite likely if ambient goes to high)

 

my first kit was the spare 240 i have an used a 'rad box' to mount it to the out side of my case, if you already plan to do this(external mount) why not figure out a way to get a 240 or 360 instead of the 120, and not need to worry later

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2 hours ago, Neo-revo said:

he also mentioned he can fit a 360 in his case with the 120, but would still only be able to put 2/3 fans on it

He can if he relocates the panel on the mid plate and the drive rack underneath it as I stated earlier, both Phantek's and other users online can confirm that the case does support a 360MM radiator in the front (with fan across the whole thing).
 

Even if he went with the A360g he wouldn't reasonably have the cooling capacity necessary, while I can't find a performance chart exclusive to the A360g it is directly comparable to EKWB's SE 360 which has the same FPI and thickness:
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At an 1850 RPM the SE 360 can dissipate around 380W worth of heat, with an additional SE 120 he'd be around 505W, his system under synthetic load puts off 595W. This chart is also provided directly by EKWB and doesn't specify if they are running push, pull, or push / pull. Taking a look at third party information and SE's bigger brother the PE 360 you can determine that they are clearly running push pull or just lying:
https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/10/ek-pe-360-radiator-review/4/
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This would indicate that for an A360g and a extra 120MM rad OP would have to run push pull on both radiators with fans at 2500 RPM, while technically possible you'd have to buy specialty fans that go up that high and that would negate any cost effectiveness OP is trying to achieve while putting off an unholy amount of sound.

I'm not suggesting HWLab Nemisis radiators because it will better suit OP's use case, but because it is the only reasonable option available with his configuration (Case, GPUs, CPU). Running push pull on a 360GTX and 120GTX you can dissipate around 626W @ 1850 RPM which is over OP's synthetic load of 595W:
https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/14/hardwarelabs-nemesis-360-gtx-radiator-review/4/
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The only way you could get away with 360MM or even 400MM of total radiator space of any variety would be if you put jet turbines on each radiator. 

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4 minutes ago, TheAgnda said:

Running push pull on a 360GTX and 120GTX you can dissipate around 626W @ 1850 RPM which is over OP's synthetic load of 595.

i read your informative post's leading up to my interjection, i dont doubt the information you are adding from a collective experience point of view.  Just stating while it would be better for his performance/temps (agreeing with your well tested results of fans at speeds and resulting dissipation-ablity ) 

 

Op was clear that he wanted to go with this line,    Didn't mean to get you going,  Any ways its time for dinner then sleep, since work comes early.  

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5 minutes ago, Neo-revo said:

i read your informative post's leading up to my interjection, i dont doubt the information you are adding from a collective experience point of view.  Just stating while it would be better for his performance/temps (agreeing with your well tested results of fans at speeds and resulting dissipation-ablity ) 

 

Op was clear that he wanted to go with this line,    Didn't mean to get you going,  Any ways its time for dinner then sleep, since work comes early.  

My intent is not to upset or fight with anyone, and I apologize if it comes off that way. 

While it may seem I'm being rude or "forceful" my only objective is to save OP from buying a bunch of parts, finding his system overheats, and then eating the cost of shipping and returns ultimately losing time and money. 

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2 minutes ago, TheAgnda said:

While it may seem I'm being rude or "forceful" my only objective is to save OP from buying a bunch of parts, finding his system overheats, and then eating the cost of shipping and returns ultimately losing time and money. 

@Livinloud

He makes a compelling case i would argue myself.    Be that as it is  Copper costs more, and  not every company is making Alu parts  So if you wanted mixed company parts and IMO easier expansion the Copper investment is worth it, If you are any what serious for this to last / be heavily used system.

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