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I5-2500K with GTX 780 or GTX 770 ?

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Hi, I plan on buying some cheap used parts for a medium to high gaming experience. Since my budget is not that big, I decided to go for a GTX 770. I was offered a GTX 780 for just a couple bucks more, but I'll get a intel core i5-2500k...

 

Will it be better if I bought a GTX 770 instead of a GTX 780 ?

 

Could my CPU possibly bottleneck the GPU ?

 

I saw some in-game benchmarks. In GPU intensive games like The Witcher 3, the GTX 770 config ran at around 40-55 FPS Ultra/High (custom preset).

Although, if we pair the i5-2500k with a GTX 780 the results are simillar.

 

If I do buy a GTX 780 will I have a cpu bottleneck ?

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You'll still get better performance with the GTX 780, if there is a bottleneck.

You should be fine though.

Can you find a GTX 970, or afford an RX 570?

 

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

You'll still get better performance with the GTX 780, if there is a bottleneck.

You should be fine though.

Can you find a GTX 970, or afford an RX 570?

 

Welcome to the forum.

I did search for a GTX 970, but in my country there is a disparity between this two cards. Buying a GTX 970 would be great, but I can't afford it at the moment, and I need a graphics card now...

 

In the used markets I can find a GTX 780 for around R$ 780 (I live in Brazil), roughly 214 american dollars. 

A GTX 970 starts at R$ 950, about 260 dollars.

It may not appear as a big difference, but I still have to buy a good power supply (I plan on buying a Corsair VS600) and processor too (the i5-2500k I was talking about).

 

A RX 570 is out of budget too : / 

 

Also, thanks for the answer !

 

 

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35 minutes ago, DarkInsider said:

Hi, I plan on buying some cheap used parts for a medium to high gaming experience. Since my budget is not that big, I decided to go for a GTX 770. I was offered a GTX 780 for just a couple bucks more, but I'll get a intel core i5-2500k...

 

Will it be better if I bought a GTX 770 instead of a GTX 780 ?

 

Could my CPU possibly bottleneck the GPU ?

 

I saw some in-game benchmarks. In GPU intensive games like The Witcher 3, the GTX 770 config ran at around 40-55 FPS Ultra/High (custom preset).

Although, if we pair the i5-2500k with a GTX 780 the results are simillar.

 

If I do buy a GTX 780 will I have a cpu bottleneck ?

I did test i2500k@4,4ghz with gtx 970 gigabite g1 gaming while back.I can confirm that 3mark clearly stated that cpu is bottle-necking the card.However gtx 780 is slightly less powerful so you should be perfectly fine.It comes down to price difference between gtx 770 and gtx 780 if is less than 15% i would definitely go for gtx 780.

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Just now, Xcoool said:

I did test i2500k@4,4ghz with gtx 970 gigabite g1 gaming while back.I can confirm that 3mark clearly stated that cpu is bottle-necking the card.However gtx 780 is slightly less powerful so you should be perfectly fine.It comes down to price difference between gtx 770 and gtx 780 if is less than 15% i would definitely go for gtx 780.

Here I've found a GTX 770 for $178, since I could spend a little more, I decided I'll buy a GTX 780 for $214.

Analysing the price and the benchmarks on "gpu.userbenchmark.com", I had to go for it.

 

In the future I'll have to throw way my motherboard and my to-buy i5, but for now I think I'll be more than satisfied with this purchase.

 

My current setup is a LGA 1155 MB, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1 TB of storage and a Pentium G620. I'll buy the i5-2500k first, if not, I would bottleneck the GTX 780 pretty hard with this old pentium...

One of the reasons for me to choose the i5-2500K was because of the compatibility with my MB, a cost x benefit situation.

 

Thanks for the answer !

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32 minutes ago, DarkInsider said:

Here I've found a GTX 770 for $178, since I could spend a little more, I decided I'll buy a GTX 780 for $214.

Analysing the price and the benchmarks on "gpu.userbenchmark.com", I had to go for it.

 

In the future I'll have to throw way my motherboard and my to-buy i5, but for now I think I'll be more than satisfied with this purchase.

 

My current setup is a LGA 1155 MB, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1 TB of storage and a Pentium G620. I'll buy the i5-2500k first, if not, I would bottleneck the GTX 780 pretty hard with this old pentium...

One of the reasons for me to choose the i5-2500K was because of the compatibility with my MB, a cost x benefit situation.

 

Thanks for the answer !

Well that like ~17% i guess gtx 780 make sense.I5 2500k is still solid chip and last intel properly made chip  with soldered die so it will overclock like crazy.I had it running @4.6ghz with 1866mhz ddr3 memories.It will be still limited by 4 cores,but single core performance wit heavy overclock isn't far away from latest Intel`s offerings.If you will upgrade in the future try to look at amd b450 chipset motherboard with ryzen 5 2600 you can get in mexico for under 300$ and 6 cores with 6 threads is still much more future proof than older i5.

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

You'll still get better performance with the GTX 780, if there is a bottleneck.

You should be fine though.

Can you find a GTX 970, or afford an RX 570?

 

Welcome to the forum.

Just so I don't create another post.

 

A GTX 780 is comparable with a RX 570, I just found both with literally the same price... 

The RX 570 has a waaay lower TDP and 1 more GB of VRAM. It also has much newer architecture.

On the other hand, the 780 has a wider memory bus (384 bits x 256 bits) and a higher memory bandwith, it doesnt fall too far back.

 

Would it be better if I sticked to the RX 570 ?

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11 minutes ago, Xcoool said:

Well that like ~17% i guess gtx 780 make sense.I5 2500k is still solid chip and last intel properly made chip  with soldered die so it will overclock like crazy.I had it running @4.6ghz with 1866mhz ddr3 memories.It will be still limited by 4 cores,but single core performance wit heavy overclock isn't far away from latest Intel`s offerings.If you will upgrade in the future try to look at amd b450 chipset motherboard with ryzen 5 2600 you can get in mexico for under 300$ and 6 cores with 6 threads is still much more future proof than older i5.

Thats a good call, thanks for the suggestion !

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Just now, DarkInsider said:

Just so I don't create another post.

 

A GTX 780 is comparable with a RX 570, I just found both with literally the same price... 

The RX 570 has a waaay lower TDP and 1 more GB of VRAM. It also has much newer architecture.

On the other hand, the 780 has a wider memory bus (384 bits x 256 bits) and a higher memory bandwith, it doesnt fall too far back.

 

Would it be better if I sticked to the RX 570 ?

Uhh where are you seeing that? The RX 570 kills the GTX 780 TI, let alone the standard 780.

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6 minutes ago, DarkInsider said:

Just so I don't create another post.

 

A GTX 780 is comparable with a RX 570, I just found both with literally the same price... 

The RX 570 has a waaay lower TDP and 1 more GB of VRAM. It also has much newer architecture.

On the other hand, the 780 has a wider memory bus (384 bits x 256 bits) and a higher memory bandwith, it doesnt fall too far back.

 

Would it be better if I sticked to the RX 570 ?

Rx 570 is a better card,also it has more vram which is very helpful in newer games.If you can get it for a good price a i would diffidently go for rx 470/570 with 4gb of vram.8gb versions are overkill.

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15 hours ago, dizmo said:

Uhh where are you seeing that? The RX 570 kills the GTX 780 TI, let alone the standard 780.

I was doing my comparisons based on the "gpu.userbenchmark.com" website...

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2 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

I was doing my comparisons based on the "gpu.userbenchmark.com" website...

Check out some of the actual benchmarks on YouTube. The RX 570 is around 30% better than the Ti.

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2 hours ago, dizmo said:

Check out some of the actual benchmarks on YouTube. The RX 570 is around 30% better than the Ti.

This is just one of the GTX 780 Ti vs RX 570 benchmarks I've found, the latter is more powerful:

http://hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-570-vs-geforce-gtx-780-ti

 

As to the question of a 2500K + RX 570/GTX 780 Ti combo, I'd say that as long as the CPU can pump out playable framerate in tandem with the GPU, why worry about a possible bottleneck? Only time this perceived bottleneck turns up is through synthetic benchmarks programs like Heaven, 3DMark (Timespy, Firestrike, etc) Valley and the like. Even my RTX 2080 Ti Final Fantasy XV benchmark score is lower than some with better CPU's and GTX 1080 Ti, but I ain't worried because I'm pretty sure that should I get the game, it'd run pretty smoothly at max setting (stressing the GPU more).

 

Even my 'weakest' rig, my HTPC with a 2600K + GTX 1080 combo, can handle all the games I've thrown at it with relative ease. Granted, I have it hooked up to a 4K TV, and my GTX 1080 cannot handle some games at max setting at 4K, but all it just takes a some tweaking of the ingame video setting and I have a pretty visually good and smooth gaming experience.

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23 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

Hi, I plan on buying some cheap used parts for a medium to high gaming experience. Since my budget is not that big, I decided to go for a GTX 770. I was offered a GTX 780 for just a couple bucks more, but I'll get a intel core i5-2500k...

 

Will it be better if I bought a GTX 770 instead of a GTX 780 ?

 

Could my CPU possibly bottleneck the GPU ?

 

I saw some in-game benchmarks. In GPU intensive games like The Witcher 3, the GTX 770 config ran at around 40-55 FPS Ultra/High (custom preset).

Although, if we pair the i5-2500k with a GTX 780 the results are simillar.

 

If I do buy a GTX 780 will I have a cpu bottleneck ?

I ran my 3570k @4.2ghz with a 780ti, so about 20% faster CPU assuming your 2500k is at stock, and about 25% faster GPU, and it was fine at 1080p, so you should be just fine with very minimal bottlenecking. In modern games you'll probably need to turn things down to medium/high with a 780 at 1440p, and with a 770 you'll be looking at mostly low-medium settings. 


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23 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

I plan on buying a Corsair VS600

Is no one gonna mention the fact that he's buying a terrible PSU?

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16 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

Is no one gonna mention the fact that he's buying a terrible PSU?

Is it really ? 

 

In my country it isn't exactly cheap, more of a reasonably priced PSU. My friend is running a GTX 1060 3GB on a Corsair CX500W PSU and he hadn't had any problems so far, it's been more than 3 years...

 

Since this is a budget build, I'd like to use a mid-range PSU. I thought Corsair was my best option.

I can only find this "VS600" one at my local tech store, apart from it, exclusively online... For me it's just not worth it.

 

But anyways, I'd like to hear from you why is it terrible !

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16 hours ago, Zeitec said:

I ran my 3570k @4.2ghz with a 780ti, so about 20% faster CPU assuming your 2500k is at stock, and about 25% faster GPU, and it was fine at 1080p, so you should be just fine with very minimal bottlenecking. In modern games you'll probably need to turn things down to medium/high with a 780 at 1440p, and with a 770 you'll be looking at mostly low-medium settings. 

Well, I guess it'll be fine then.

 

After watching that video about bottlenecking on LTT I was kinda freaked out.

 

Thanks for the help !

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21 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

Is it really ? 

Yes

 

21 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

In my country it isn't exactly cheap

Price does not denote quality

 

21 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

My friend is running a GTX 1060 3GB on a Corsair CX500W PSU and he hadn't had any problems so far, it's been more than 3 years...

That is a decent PSU

 

21 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

Since this is a budget build, I'd like to use a mid-range PSU. I thought Corsair was my best option.

I can only find this "VS600" one at my local tech store, apart from it, exclusively online... For me it's just not worth it.

Online is usually the best place to shop lol

 

21 hours ago, DarkInsider said:

But anyways, I'd like to hear from you why is it terrible !

The internal components are low quality. I don't know a lot about electrical stuff so I just take other people's words for it, but there's a tier list for PSUs on the forums here that I trust (and so do a lot of other people here).

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