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8 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

is the SR slim worth the extra $14 AUD?

Yeah, it's still decently priced.

Hi.

I am currently running a fx 8350 (125 W TDP) with stock cooling, the fan is really loud and i would like better temps. I have my eyes on the Cryorig H7, Be quite pure rock and hyper 212x. My budget is around the $70 AU ($45 US) area and i want a cooler with support for intel 115x and the AMD  AM3+ sockets.

 

I am hoping someone can help me choose what would be the best cooler or maybe have another suggestion. I live in Australia BTW. 

 

Cheers!

 

P.s my tower can fit about 150mm high cooler (inwin mana 136) from measuring it just now, i cant find official sizes anywhere but if necessary i am willing to do modifications to the side panel but would rather not.

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Any of those coolers will work fine for you, good choices.  

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7 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Any of those coolers will work fine for you, good choices.  

Oh, sweet.

which one of those would you say is best value for money. the pure rock and 212x are couple dollars apart ($45 and $49 respectively) and the h7 is $65?

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i just found that the be quite shadow rock slim is a thing ($59). that seems to be a sort of middle ground?

 

is that any good?

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I couldn't say, haven't used either and they look almost identical from what I can tell.  Probably go with the 212x simply due to having the 212EVO for years and it worked great, no noise and I OC"d my 4670K to 4.4GHz easily.

 

 

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Just now, Tree_tt said:

i just found that the be quite shadow rock slim is a thing ($59). that seems to be a sort of middle ground?

 

is that any good?

No, it's a lower TDP and is more for small cases that can't fit a full size cooler.  Skip it. 

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2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

No, it's a lower TDP and is more for small cases that can't fit a full size cooler.  Skip it. 

are you looking at the shadow rock slim or pure rock slim, because i was referring to the shadow rock slim which doesn't match with what you said (they really need to work on their naming scheme IMO)? 

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13 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

Oh, sweet.

which one of those would you say is best value for money. the pure rock and 212x are couple dollars apart ($45 and $49 respectively) and the h7 is $65?

Are these Canadian prices? Can't imagine why the 212 is so expensive. I recommend the Be Quiet cooler, since you specified quiet, effective cooling.

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Just now, Tree_tt said:

are you looking at the shadow rock slim or pure rock slim, because i was referring to the shadow rock slim which doesn't match with what you said (they really need to work on their naming scheme IMO)? 

You're right, it popped up the Shadow Rock LP.  Found this in a review comparing Shadow Rock Slim vs Pure Rock..

 

Either will be good for the job however what is the make and model of your case? The Shadow Rock Slim is 5mm shorter than the Pure Rock cooler. FYI apart from heat dissipation, they will be the same in terms of temps when compared to the Hyper 212X. Only thing is the Be Quiet! cooler will be quieter.

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Are these Canadian prices? Can't imagine why the 212 is so expensive. I recommend the Be Quiet cooler, since you specified quiet, effective cooling.

AU.

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2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

You're right, it popped up the Shadow Rock LP.  Found this in a review comparing Shadow Rock Slim vs Pure Rock..

 

Either will be good for the job however what is the make and model of your case? The Shadow Rock Slim is 5mm shorter than the Pure Rock cooler. FYI apart from heat dissipation, they will be the same in terms of temps when compared to the Hyper 212X. Only thing is the Be Quiet! cooler will be quieter.

inwin mana 136. good luck finding any useful information about it.

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4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Are these Canadian prices? Can't imagine why the 212 is so expensive. I recommend the Be Quiet cooler, since you specified quiet, effective cooling.

which Be quite! are you referring to?

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34 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

Hi.

I am currently running a fx 8350 (125 W TDP) with stock cooling, the fan is really loud and i would like better temps. I have my eyes on the Cryorig H7, Be quite pure rock and hyper 212x. My budget is around the $70 AU ($45 US) area and i want a cooler with support for intel 115x and the AMD  AM3+ sockets.

 

I am hoping someone can help me choose what would be the best cooler or maybe have another suggestion. I live in Australia BTW. 

 

Cheers!

 

P.s my tower can fit about 150mm high cooler (inwin mana 136) from measuring it just now, i cant find official sizes anywhere but if necessary i am willing to do modifications to the side panel but would rather not.

The Cryorig H7 is an excellent choice, same for the be quiet! Pure Rock. Please do not get a Hyper 212X, the Hyper 212 should not be a consideration in today's market.

 

Another suggestion I can put forward is the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One, it's a cooler which should easily fit in your budget, and is a great option for both performance and visuals.

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2 minutes ago, seoz said:

The Cryorig H7 is an excellent choice, same for the be quiet! Pure Rock. Please do not get a Hyper 212X, the Hyper 212 should not be a consideration in today's market.

 

Another suggestion I can put forward is the Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One, it's a cooler which should easily fit in your budget, and is a great option for both performance and visuals.

can i ask why the 212x is worse? curiosity reasons.

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4 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

which Be quite! are you referring to?

The pure rock

 

3 minutes ago, seoz said:

Hyper 212 should not be a consideration in today's market.

Certainly not at that price, but they're still discoverable here and there at $25 USD this was the appeal to begin with.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, Tree_tt said:

can i ask why the 212x is worse? curiosity reasons.

Poor build quality, cheap materials, difficult installation, less quiet fans

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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2 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

can i ask why the 212x is worse? curiosity reasons.

There are much better options at a little more cost. It's poorly-built, has the most bare-bone construction, it's difficult to install, it looks like a $5 cooler, and was made over half a decade ago, it's not a good choice anymore.

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3 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

can i ask why the 212x is worse? curiosity reasons.

They are awful to install tbh. It's one of the reasons why if you can i would go with a similar performing cooler from a diffrent brand. 

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4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Poor build quality, cheap materials, difficult installation, less quiet fans

 

2 minutes ago, seoz said:

There are much better options at a little more cost. It's poorly-built, has the most bare-bone construction, it's difficult to install, it looks like a $5 cooler, and was made over half a decade ago, it's not a good choice anymore.

 

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

They are awful to install tbh. It's one of the reasons why if you can i would go with a similar performing cooler from a diffrent brand. 

fair enough, i cant argue with that.

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5 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Are these Canadian prices?

Australian -- so like America's Canada's Canada. 

5 hours ago, Tree_tt said:

inwin mana 136. good luck finding any useful information about it.

It supports coolers up to 176mm without side panel fans or 156mm with standard 25mm thick fans. https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/pc-cases/79-in-win-mana-136-midi-tower?showall=&start=5 

5 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Poor build quality, cheap materials, difficult installation, less quiet fans

I still prefer the 212x installation over the H7. 

5 hours ago, Tree_tt said:

i just found that the be quite shadow rock slim is a thing ($59). that seems to be a sort of middle ground?

is that any good?

Asides from ease of installation, the SR Slim is better than every other cooler mentioned so far. 

5 hours ago, Tree_tt said:

so the pure rock is the best value then, and will handle the 8350 fairly well?

The Pure Rock is plenty if you're not planning to oc much or at all and is very quiet. If you do want to oc, the Ninja 4 seems to be not much more than the SR Slim and performs substantially better: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/RZfmP6/scythe-cpu-cooler-scnj4000

Can I get confirmation on the shipping price listed for the Ninja 4 from Amazon? It's listing $22.51 but I'm not sure if that's because I'm in the US. 

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7 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Australian -- so like America's Canada's Canada. 

It supports coolers up to 176mm without side panel fans or 156mm with standard 25mm thick fans. https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/pc-cases/79-in-win-mana-136-midi-tower?showall=&start=5 

I still prefer the 212x installation over the H7. 

Asides from ease of installation, the SR Slim is better than every other cooler mentioned so far. 

The Pure Rock is plenty if you're not planning to oc much or at all and is very quiet. If you do want to oc, the Ninja 4 seems to be not much more than the SR Slim and performs substantially better: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/RZfmP6/scythe-cpu-cooler-scnj4000

Can I get confirmation on the shipping price listed for the Ninja 4 from Amazon? It's listing $22.51 but I'm not sure if that's because I'm in the US. 

Ninja 4 cost is pretty high shipped, and i can't find any retailers that sell it here either, besides Ebay but thats about the same or more.

i do want to do a little OC because the IPC of the FX chips is a not great. 

is the SR slim worth the extra $14 AUD?

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8 minutes ago, Tree_tt said:

is the SR slim worth the extra $14 AUD?

Yeah, it's still decently priced.

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