things you would change in this build Gaming build?

[Bullet4Justice]

Hello, I'm planning to build this PC but everything is very early, this build most likely will be complete in a couple of months time. I've done a lot of research and spent a lot of time learning about all the parts and what I should be looking for in every single part. but still, I'm not an expert so I need your help. this is obviously a gaming PC but I went with mostly high end parts because I want it to last a while (at least 5+ years). that's all. Thanks. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor	$369.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$119.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$149.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$58.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$70.46 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1632.98
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$1617.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-25 07:12 EDT-0400

 

[wojtepanik]

use nvme drive, not much more expensive

[Cereal5]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($70.46 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1540.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-25 07:16 EDT-0400

 

Saved almost $100 just by switching out a few parts for different versions.

H100i pro > H100i v2. Same thing, no RBG ring just RBG logo

850 Evo > 860 Evo. Same thing, newer generation, twice the size, still cheaper

RAM --- Intel CPUs don't really care about memory speed, especially for gaming. I saved you $25 in RAM alone, and it's still black, and it's even still 2800 MHz. You can save another $5-10 by going with 2400, doesn't really matter though.

 

The rest of it looks good

[Cereal5]

1 minute ago, wojtepanik said:

use nvme drive, not much more expensive

$85 for a 500GB 2.5" SSD or $140 for a 500GB NVMe. It's kind of a big difference, and the speed difference for loading games and windows really isn't that much. It's just a gaming rig, not a caching server or something.

[Bullet4Justice]

2 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

use nvme drive, not much more expensive

I appreciate the response, will look into this technology as I don't have much knowledge about it.

[Bullet4Justice]

3 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($70.46 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1540.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-25 07:16 EDT-0400

 

Saved almost $100 just by switching out a few parts for different versions.

H100i pro > H100i v2. Same thing, no RBG ring just RBG logo

850 Evo > 860 Evo. Same thing, newer generation, twice the size, still cheaper

RAM --- Intel CPUs don't really care about memory speed, especially for gaming. I saved you $25 in RAM alone, and it's still black, and it's even still 2800 MHz. You can save another $5-10 by going with 2400, doesn't really matter though.

 

The rest of it looks good

 

thank you so much. I will be sure to make these changes. especially the cooler as I don't really care about RGB

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

3 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

H100i pro > H100i v2. Same thing, no RBG ring just RBG logo

Wrong. Quieter pumps and actually decent fans

[r2724r16]

Why are you getting the RTX 2070? Get a GTX 1080 instead. I'd also save some money by getting an air cooler instead of an AIO liquid cooler like a Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15. 

[Bullet4Justice]

1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Why are you getting the RTX 2070? Get a GTX 1080 instead. I'd also save some money by getting an air cooler instead of an AIO liquid cooler like a Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15. 

wouldn't I struggle with overclocking if I used an air cooler? I live in the Middle East where in summer the outside temp is 45C+ so overclocked with an air cooler would probably run the GPU very hot.

[Cereal5]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Wrong. Quieter pumps and actually decent fans

Fair. I had the H100i v2 and I suppose it was louder than my H115i Pro. I suppose the H100i Pro has the same pump.

 

1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Why are you getting the RTX 2070? Get a GTX 1080 instead. I'd also save some money by getting an air cooler instead of an AIO liquid cooler like a Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15. 

Yeah you can get a good price on a used 1080. However, a big air tower introduces RAM and case clearance issues, where AIOs have almost no compatibility issues these days. Also, the NH-D15 barely stays up with a good 240mm rad

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Fair. I had the H100i v2 and I suppose it was louder than my H115i Pro. I suppose the H100i Pro has the same pump.

 

Yeah you can get a good price on a used 1080. However, a big air tower introduces RAM and case clearance issues, where AIOs have almost no compatibility issues these days. Also, the NH-D15 barely stays up with a good 240mm rad

Not true actually, my DRP4 keeps up with a silence optimized H115i Pro

[r2724r16]

1 minute ago, Bullet4Justice said:

wouldn't I struggle with overclocking if I used an air cooler? I live in the Middle East where in summer the outside temp is 45C+ so overclocked with an air cooler would probably run the GPU very hot.

The Dark Rock Pro 4 will be more quiet than most AIO liquid coolers because it doesn't have a pump.

2 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Yeah you can get a good price on a used 1080. However, a big air tower introduces RAM and case clearance issues, where AIOs have almost no compatibility issues these days. Also, the NH-D15 barely stays up with a good 240mm rad

The NH-D15 and DRP4 cost less and are more silent than AIO liquid coolers. And the fan on the DRP4 can be adjusted if necessary.

[Cereal5]

2 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Not true actually, my DRP4 keeps up with a silence optimized H115i Pro

You just proved my point... You have to optimize an AIO for "silence" in order to handicap it enough to be at the levels of a high quality air cooler.

 

Just now, r2724r16 said:

The Dark Rock Pro 4 will be more quiet than most AIO liquid coolers because it doesn't have a pump.

Fans create much more noise than pumps on good AIOs, and I didn't recommend any bad AIOs like a CM 240 Lite or something.

 

2 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

The NH-D15 and DRP4 cost less and are more silent than AIO liquid coolers. And the fan on the DRP4 can be adjusted if necessary.

See above, the fan pushing air is what makes the most sound. Ask me how I know, I have one next to my ears right now. The fans on the AIO can be "adjusted if necessary" also so... yeah.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Cereal5 said:

You just proved my point... You have to optimize an AIO for "silence" in order to handicap it enough to be at the levels of a high quality air cooler.

 

Fans create much more noise than pumps on good AIOs, and I didn't recommend any bad AIOs like a CM 240 Lite or something.

 

See above, the fan pushing air is what makes the most sound. Ask me how I know, I have one next to my ears right now. The fans on the AIO can be "adjusted if necessary" also so... yeah.

Bro I'm suggesting he goes with a DRP4 over a 240

[Bullet4Justice]

2 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

The Dark Rock Pro 4 will be more quiet than most AIO liquid coolers because it doesn't have a pump.

The NH-D15 and DRP4 cost less and are more silent than AIO liquid coolers. And the fan on the DRP4 can be adjusted if necessary.

 

if the corsair one is not crazy loud... just noticeable its fine. but I really care most about cooling most efficiently because of my area's temp as I said above.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, Bullet4Justice said:

 

if the corsair one is not crazy loud... just noticeable its fine. but I really care most about cooling most efficiently because of my area's temp as I said above.

Than get a 280MM AIO like the H115i Pro

[r2724r16]

Just now, Bullet4Justice said:

if the corsair one is not crazy loud... just noticeable its fine. but I really care most about cooling most efficiently because of my area's temp as I said above.

You can save a ton of money by going with the DRP4 or NH-D15. And as mentioned above, the DRP4 is a good air cooler that can compete with decent AIOs. 

[Cereal5]

1 minute ago, Bullet4Justice said:

 

if the corsair one is not crazy loud... just noticeable its fine. but I really care most about cooling most efficiently because of my area's temp as I said above.

Stick with the H100i Pro if you want it a bit quieter. It does have a better pump and fans, I misspoke. But also look into a used GTX 1080, you should be able to find one under $400 and they perform basically the same as a 2070. You could also look for a 1080 Ti, which will probably cost a bit more (550-600) but performs better than a 2070

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

You can save a ton of money by going with the DRP4 or NH-D15. And as mentioned above, the DRP4 is a good air cooler that can compete with decent AIOs. 

Not to mention it looks awesome

[Bullet4Justice]

2 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Not to mention it looks awesome

 

I'm unfortunately that guy, who gives zero fucks about looks and cares about performance only. and of course, if the part is worth the money. at the end of the day I'm a student.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Bullet4Justice said:

 

I'm unfortunately that guy, who gives zero fucks about looks and cares about performance only. and of course, if the part is worth the money. at the end of the day I'm a student.

In that case get the NH-D15

[Cereal5]

1 minute ago, Bullet4Justice said:

 

I'm unfortunately that guy, who gives zero fucks about looks and cares about performance only. and of course, if the part is worth the money. at the end of the day I'm a student.

Get what you want. Dark rock Pro 4, NH-D15, H100i Pro, H115i Pro. They'll all be close in performance (getting better from left to right). If you get an air cooler, just make sure it fits in your case. There's probably a youtube video or three comparing them (or previous generations of the water coolers since they are pretty new).

[Bullet4Justice]

2 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

In that case get the NH-D15

 

1 minute ago, Cereal5 said:

Get what you want. Dark rock Pro 4, NH-D15, H100i Pro, H115i Pro. They'll all be close in performance (getting better from left to right). If you get an air cooler, just make sure it fits in your case. There's probably a youtube video or three comparing them (or previous generations of the water coolers since they are pretty new).

thanks to you both. I appreciate your insight. I seem to be leaning towards the H100i, at the end of the day if it's performing not as expected I could always save a bit of money and swap out to either the NH-D15 or the DRP4.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Bullet4Justice said:

 

thanks to you both. I appreciate your insight. I seem to be leaning towards the H100i, at the end of the day if it's performing not as expected I could always save a bit of money and swap out to either the NH-D15 or the DRP4.

Personally I'd go air cooling but whatever floats your boat I guess