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What CPU for an every Day PC

Iam building a PC for my Aunt. Its for browsing and Watching some movies.

 

I dont have a clue on wich CPU to take. Should i go for AMD or Intel?

 

i dont plan on Building a GPU in it, so the APU has to be able to work every day loads.

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Athlon 200GE is good enough for just that tbh, SSD and RAM should be given priority before the CPU

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Athlon 200GE is good enough for just that tbh, SSD and RAM should be given priority before the CPU

This is not necessarily true as you would not want to pair like 128 GB of RAM and a 2TB high-performance Samsung SSD with a very old and slow (to today's standards and the standards of the RAM ans SSD example provided) Intel  processor such as the Intel Core 2 Due E3400 as there would be a bottleneck which would be caused by the CPU's performance. 

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I'd go with AMD. Better value.

This is not also always going to be right as sometimes an Intel branded processor could have a better price to performance ratio (especially if you find a used one at a good price).

Hope this information post was helpful  ?,

        @Boomwebsearch 

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Just now, Boomwebsearch said:

This is not necessarily true as you would not want to pair like 128 GB of RAM and a 2TB high-performance Samsung SSD with a very old and slow (to today's standards and the standards of the RAM ans SSD example provided) Intel  processor such as the Intel Core 2 Due E3400 as there would be a bottleneck which would be caused by the CPU's performance. 

I dont mean going that extreme. I dont expect a build like that have enough budget for huge capacity SSDs at all :P

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Umbranoctuna said:

thats a no-brainer. that not what he meant

I was not trying to criticism this point as it could be applicable to the circumstances of your build although I wanted to include it in order to prevent misconceptions within future readers that this is always something which would be applicable. The example provided within my last post was just for representing a possible scenario which the point that the SSD and RAM would need to be paired with a processor of that spec or otherwise it would be a bottleneck in the performance of that system.

Hope this information post was helpful  ?,

        @Boomwebsearch 

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Anything modern, like an LGA 1151 Celeron or a ryzen athlon. I wouldn't go any lower, such as a ryzen A series APU like the A12. They use an old microarchitecture. I could make a pcpartpicker list in a sec, with motheboards and CPUs

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $59.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $50.01 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $110.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-20 12:17 EDT-0400  
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Celeron G4920 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $49.89 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $54.38 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $104.27
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-20 12:19 EDT-0400  

 

As you can see, the athlon is only a few bucks more, and it gives 2c/4t instead of 2c/2t, and the integrated graphics are faster as well. The rest of the components don't matter, just don't get a garbage power supply, and make sure an SSD is included.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $59.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $50.01 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $110.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-20 12:17 EDT-0400  
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Celeron G4920 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $49.89 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $54.38 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $104.27
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-20 12:19 EDT-0400  

 

As you can see, the athlon is only a few bucks more, and it gives 2c/4t instead of 2c/2t, and the integrated graphics are faster as well. The rest of the components don't matter, just don't get a garbage power supply, and make sure an SSD is included.

My current build plan is:

 

Athlon 200GE Or Ryzen 3 2200G

 

Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

 

8 GB DDR4 Dual channel (not sure on how future proof 4 GB is, thats why i think i should take 8 GB)

 

120 GB Sandisk SSD

 

2000GB WD Blue HDD

 

300 WATT be qiuet power suply

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Just now, Umbranoctuna said:

My current build plan is:

 

Athlon 200GE Or Ryzen 3 2200G

 

Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

 

8 GB DDR4 Dual channel (not sure on how future proof 4 GB is, thats why i think i should take 8 GB)

 

120 GB Sandisk SSD

 

2000GB WD Blue HDD

 

300 WATT be qiuet power suply

8GB will be fine but not necessary. You should save with single channel and just get the athlon, since the ryzen 3 is probably a little OP for everyday use. And since you're getting the cheapest A320 board out there, it's probably best to get the lowest power draw Ryzen CPU you could, since the VRMs are not great.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

8GB will be fine but not necessary. You should save with single channel and just get the athlon, since the ryzen 3 is probably a little OP for everyday use. And since you're getting the cheapest A320 board out there, it's probably best to get the lowest power draw Ryzen CPU you could, since the VRMs are not great.

Does the Althon Come with a Cooler? i think the Ryzen does. i dont usually buy amd.

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14 minutes ago, Umbranoctuna said:

Does the Althon Come with a Cooler? i think the Ryzen does. i dont usually buy amd.

Yes, every AMD CPU comes with a cooler nowadays. Some of the first gen Ryzen didn't though, which lead to some confusion.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 hour ago, Umbranoctuna said:

My current build plan is:

 

Athlon 200GE Or Ryzen 3 2200G

 

Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

 

8 GB DDR4 Dual channel (not sure on how future proof 4 GB is, thats why i think i should take 8 GB)

 

120 GB Sandisk SSD

 

2000GB WD Blue HDD

 

300 WATT be qiuet power suply

Go with the Athlon, don't bother with 8GB of RAM, it's unnecessary unless your grandparents are tab heavy users.

2TB also seems rather excessive. For just file storage most people can easily get away with 1TB.

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz

Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: AMD Radeon 6700XT 12GB PSU: Corsair SF600 Case: Streacom DA2

Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT

 

MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Buy a refurbished i5 2400 with Win 10, and a boot SSD for like $160

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 3: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler in push/pull, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  Lenovo 27" 1080p 60hz placeholder monitor, generic mouse, generic keyboard.  Still a work in progress

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Viotek GN24C 24" 1080p 144hz curved and Hannspree HF207 as 2nd monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

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