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Dell Precision T3500 would work with ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB ROG STRIX OC?

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Hello, as my nick name is showing...I feel newbie to the computer world. The question:

 

I just got a Dell Precision T3500 Workstation with the following spec:


RAM: 10.0 GB (Speed: 5x 1333 / 1x 1066)

Octa Core, 8 x Intel Xeon 2.80 Ghz

Its currently running with a Nvidia Quadro 600 Graphic Card

 

I bought the machine for CAD work....but also of course for gaming on my breaks ?, I am also planning on running 3x27" widescreen bezel-less monitors side-by-side (not that maters, just being show off ?). After me first CAD rendering I instantly felt the need for a faster card and after some research I learned that very few Cards can be great for both CAD and gaming, found  this article  mentioning the ASUS Strix GTX 1070 as a good option, I am almost pulling the trigger in this purchase but first I want to make sure the installation would work fine.

 

- Will it be compatible with the existing internal cables?

- Found this forum from this video. it looks like I should check if my case is large enough to acomodate the bigger GPU... and the connectors, I haven't open the Workstation just yet, does anyone know this answer?

- I noticed that the ASUS Strix GTX 170 has two HDMI ports and two Regular DP Display Port, If I'm planning on using 3 monitors should work just fine correct? (I would need just one adapter from to display port to hdmi)

 

Any help is much appreciated thanks.

 

 

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Hi, welcome to the forums. 

 

I had a T3500 for a couple of years and the power supply mine had was a 525 Watt with a single 6 pin power connector.  I also have a 1070 Strix and it requires a single 8 pin connector.   As for the card I'm not sure if the card itself has will physically fit, it might but it would be close.  I no longer have the T3500 so can't check for you.  

 

I had put a 1050 TI in my T3500 and no issues from the BIOS or anything taking that 10 series card.  

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Reznik said:

Hi, welcome to the forums. 

 

I had a T3500 for a couple of years and the power supply mine had was a 525 Watt with a single 6 pin power connector.  I also have a 1070 Strix and it requires a single 8 pin connector.   As for the card I'm not sure if the card itself has will physically fit, it might but it would be close.  I no longer have the T3500 so can't check for you.  

 

I had put a 1050 TI in my T3500 and no issues from the BIOS or anything taking that 10 series card.  

Good info thank! I am preparing to open the machine the check all these details. If I have a 6 pin connector, is it easy to replace by a 8 pin? Do you remember if this 1050 Ti was with 6 pins? thanks!

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Ok so I opened the machine! Things to mention:

 

-I can't find any 6 or 8 pin connector to the current Nvidia quadro 600, is connected straight to the motherboard and that's it;

-Dimensions: 1070 Strix is 11.73 " x 5.28 " x 1.57 " Inch (29.8 x 13.4 x4 Centimeter). I do have clearance or the length of 11.73 inches, but I'm a little concerned with the width of 5.28, looking at the picture it looks like it would overlap with the blue plastic 'gate' (can't even really see the function of this part).

 

Now the question: if its easy to install the new power supply with the 8 pin connector? Will the width be a problem? any solution around that?

 

 

 

 

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T3500 will take a standard PSU.  It doesn't take any proprietary connections so you should be able to use any quality power supply.  The 525 watt in mine was a bit bigger than a standard size PSU but a inch or two but you shouldn't have any issues.  

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1 hour ago, apsnewbie said:

Ok so I opened the machine! Things to mention:

 

-I can't find any 6 or 8 pin connector to the current Nvidia quadro 600, is connected straight to the motherboard and that's it;

-Dimensions: 1070 Strix is 11.73 " x 5.28 " x 1.57 " Inch (29.8 x 13.4 x4 Centimeter). I do have clearance or the length of 11.73 inches, but I'm a little concerned with the width of 5.28, looking at the picture it looks like it would overlap with the blue plastic 'gate' (can't even really see the function of this part).

 

Now the question: if its easy to install the new power supply with the 8 pin connector? Will the width be a problem? any solution around that?

 

 

 

 

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See what open connectors you have available off the PSU, Molex or SATA power.  If you have two "rails" (lines) running of each of either type you can get a splitter cable from Newegg that pulls from either two diff Molex, or two diff SATA powers to create an 8pin. 

 

Or buy a diff PSU :)

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On 10/19/2018 at 2:14 PM, Tristerin said:

See what open connectors you have available off the PSU, Molex or SATA power.  If you have two "rails" (lines) running of each of either type you can get a splitter cable from Newegg that pulls from either two diff Molex, or two diff SATA powers to create an 8pin. 

 

Or buy a diff PSU :)

Okay so I did some investigation and I found two connectors coming out of the PSU (not connecting to anything)...so I guess that's good news for my plan! yes, one is a SATA plug and the other is a 6 pin connector...BUT...I already pulled the trigger and purchased a fancy ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce® GTX 1080 TI 11GB, its in the mail. As I understand these GPU's are only 8 pins, sounds like I'm very close to succeed connecting everything without the necessity to buy a new PSU....but still not sure what do to. My PSU is a DELL H525AF-00...is showing in the picture.

 

Can I just get something like this converter?

 

 

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I wouldn't connect a 1080 Ti so that PSU, even if it had the proper connections let alone use adapters.  That PSU is aging and from 2010.    I think a 1080 Ti also recommends, 650 Watt PSU.   Now is not that time to cheap put on a PSU with such a high end card.  

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4 hours ago, Reznik said:

I wouldn't connect a 1080 Ti so that PSU, even if it had the proper connections let alone use adapters.  That PSU is aging and from 2010.    I think a 1080 Ti also recommends, 650 Watt PSU.   Now is not that time to cheap put on a PSU with such a high end card.  

That's very good to know, thanks! That's why I'm here to make sure I do the right thing!

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11 hours ago, apsnewbie said:

Okay so I did some investigation and I found two connectors coming out of the PSU (not connecting to anything)...so I guess that's good news for my plan! yes, one is a SATA plug and the other is a 6 pin connector...BUT...I already pulled the trigger and purchased a fancy ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce® GTX 1080 TI 11GB, its in the mail. As I understand these GPU's are only 8 pins, sounds like I'm very close to succeed connecting everything without the necessity to buy a new PSU....but still not sure what do to. My PSU is a DELL H525AF-00...is showing in the picture.

 

Can I just get something like this converter?

 

 

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Recommended Wattage is always higher.  Your 1080ti will run off the power supplied by that PSU.  However the others are correct, it is aging and *could* go out, it *could* do more damage...but so can my Corsair HX850 if it borked.  And when you drive a car an accident *could* happen yet you still go to work.  If you CAN afford replacing it.. sure that's an option.

 

However people just look at old PSU's and go - THATS OLD REPLACE IT.

 

Did you know that the SAME EXACT MODEL PSU GOES INTO THE ALIENWARE AURORA desktop?  So if its good enough for a Workstation (they are gooooood PSU's, usually platinum rated - placed that use them cant just have them fail, they make money off these machines) and good enough for ALIENWARE - I would not take everyones thoughts on your PSU so....highly - all it takes is googling the model number to see what it actually is folks!

 

Here is exactly what I would do if I wasn't replacing the PSU, and each should work in its own right:

 

Get a SATA splitter and add more SATA draw off one SATA power split to power my Optical Drive, HDDs and SSDs - these take nothing in amps to run - which would free up a potential SATA rail in that machine to pull power from.  Take the free SATA I see in the picture, and a DIFFERENT cables coming off the PSU SATA (don't pull off the same cord that will be a problem) and use this connector - it will work:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400105&cm_re=2x_SATA_to_8_pin-_-12-400-105-_-Product

 

OR

 

Free up 2 Molex 4 pin by doing the exact same thing described as above and use a molex to 8 pin - which I would recommend over the SATA x2 option because MOLEX will technically handle the power draw better and use this adapter:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400034&cm_re=2x_molex_to_8_pin-_-12-400-034-_-Product

 

OR

 

I would take a 6 pin to 8 pin connector and try that (I would do this last)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812423175&cm_re=6_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-423-175-_-Product

 

OR

 

Replace the PSU with a higher power wattage - 650 sounds legit.

 

EDIT - just clicked your link, yes same adapter in one of these options just I don't use ebay lol.  Ive also only had 1 PSU bork on me since Ive been PC building, and gaming since 2000.  It popped, PC shut off, and I replaced the PSU and went about my business.  Ive personally not had a PSU bork anything on any of my computers - haven't known a single person this has happened to personally (been gaming with the same group for 10+ years) - the PSU taking the system or anything with it.  Things just shut off now-a-days before disaster. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Recommended Wattage is always higher.  Your 1080ti will run off the power supplied by that PSU.  However the others are correct, it is aging and *could* go out, it *could* do more damage...but so can my Corsair HX850 if it borked.  And when you drive a car an accident *could* happen yet you still go to work.  If you CAN afford replacing it.. sure that's an option.

 

However people just look at old PSU's and go - THATS OLD REPLACE IT.

 

Did you know that the SAME EXACT MODEL PSU GOES INTO THE ALIENWARE AURORA desktop?  So if its good enough for a Workstation (they are gooooood PSU's, usually platinum rated - placed that use them cant just have them fail, they make money off these machines) and good enough for ALIENWARE - I would not take everyones thoughts on your PSU so....highly - all it takes is googling the model number to see what it actually is folks!

 

Here is exactly what I would do if I wasn't replacing the PSU, and each should work in its own right:

 

Get a SATA splitter and add more SATA draw off one SATA power split to power my Optical Drive, HDDs and SSDs - these take nothing in amps to run - which would free up a potential SATA rail in that machine to pull power from.  Take the free SATA I see in the picture, and a DIFFERENT cables coming off the PSU SATA (don't pull off the same cord that will be a problem) and use this connector - it will work:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400105&cm_re=2x_SATA_to_8_pin-_-12-400-105-_-Product

 

OR

 

Free up 2 Molex 4 pin by doing the exact same thing described as above and use a molex to 8 pin - which I would recommend over the SATA x2 option because MOLEX will technically handle the power draw better and use this adapter:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400034&cm_re=2x_molex_to_8_pin-_-12-400-034-_-Product

 

OR

 

I would take a 6 pin to 8 pin connector and try that (I would do this last)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812423175&cm_re=6_pin_to_8_pin-_-12-423-175-_-Product

 

OR

 

Replace the PSU with a higher power wattage - 650 sounds legit.

 

What do you mean by 'run off the power supplied by this stock DELL PSU' ? it won't deliver enough power?

 

By doing the first option (or second), will it prevent a worse case? even if the PSU goes out will my GPU card be safe?

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1 minute ago, apsnewbie said:

What do you mean by 'run off the power supplied by this stock DELL PSU' ? it won't deliver enough power?

 

By doing the first option (or second), will it prevent a worse case? even if the PSU goes out will my GPU card be safe?

Your entire PC will run just fine with this Dell 525w PSU when you install the 1080ti - as long as you can daisychain cables to create the proper 8 pin power that is :)

 

First option *MAY* (see also, could, but Ive never seen it just read about it) cause the SATA power cables to melt, but guarantee the GPU will cause a shutdown before a short occurs.  Because those are rated for less power than a MOLEX (going by memory here)

 

MOLEX option I would have to say is the safest of these two.  Free up two Molex, one from different *sets* coming out of your PSU and create a daisychained Molex to 8 pin power.

 

Worse case would be, imho, the PSU taking something with it.  Can I guarantee it wont?  I cant.  Can I give my testimony?  I can - I 100% see no issue with this.  It will make just enough power off the daisychain to be safe (I would say it is NOT safe if you use 1 rail coming from the PSU and pull power from two SATA on one rail...does that make sense?)

 

For piece of mind, everyone else is right.  If you spent the money on a GTX 1080, spend another sub 100 bucks and get a PSU for more piece of mind.  Your machine just went from a MEH machine to a really nice gaming rig, so you should question - why skimp on the PSU.

 

I always look at things like - not everyone can afford to replace everything so I look for cheap options to make it work.  All of those options will work, and tbh I would do them no problemo if I was in a position to not replace the PSU.

 

However, I am in a position in life where a PSU purchase wouldn't break my bank...so I would replace the PSU if I could, and go higher than what you need (thus the reason I run a 850w...Ill never draw that much power unless I Crossfire 2 Vega 64 GPUs lol)

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37 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Your entire PC will run just fine with this Dell 525w PSU when you install the 1080ti - as long as you can daisychain cables to create the proper 8 pin power that is :)

 

First option *MAY* (see also, could, but Ive never seen it just read about it) cause the SATA power cables to melt, but guarantee the GPU will cause a shutdown before a short occurs.  Because those are rated for less power than a MOLEX (going by memory here)

 

MOLEX option I would have to say is the safest of these two.  Free up two Molex, one from different *sets* coming out of your PSU and create a daisychained Molex to 8 pin power.

 

Worse case would be, imho, the PSU taking something with it.  Can I guarantee it wont?  I cant.  Can I give my testimony?  I can - I 100% see no issue with this.  It will make just enough power off the daisychain to be safe (I would say it is NOT safe if you use 1 rail coming from the PSU and pull power from two SATA on one rail...does that make sense?)

 

For piece of mind, everyone else is right.  If you spent the money on a GTX 1080, spend another sub 100 bucks and get a PSU for more piece of mind.  Your machine just went from a MEH machine to a really nice gaming rig, so you should question - why skimp on the PSU.

 

I always look at things like - not everyone can afford to replace everything so I look for cheap options to make it work.  All of those options will work, and tbh I would do them no problemo if I was in a position to not replace the PSU.

 

However, I am in a position in life where a PSU purchase wouldn't break my bank...so I would replace the PSU if I could, and go higher than what you need (thus the reason I run a 850w...Ill never draw that much power unless I Crossfire 2 Vega 64 GPUs lol)

Thanks a lot, these alternatives make sense but you're right...for piece of mind I'll just replace the PSU for a 850w...I'm not entirely sure how to run those cables as you described so I would need to spend more time understanding...plus...I found a video on youtube on how the replace the PSU and it looks straight forward to me. Of course I'm always trying to be smart with money, got a pre-owned 1080Ti...and I'm also here looking at a used PSU - would you buy this?

 

Look's like the installation of this massive video card won't be a problem after this PSU change...I guess my remaining questions are more towards performance: Will the 1080Ti card work well with my Workstation specs?

 

RAM: 10.0 GB (Speed: 5x 1333 / 1x 1066)

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How about heat dissipation? Looking at the motherboard picture there is only a small heat sink connected to it, I know that 90% of the GPU size is only on Heat sinking....should I be worried about overheating the motherboard? If I manage to install the GPU with the panel closed, I found a video showing that is possible...maybe would be smart to leave the Workstation without the panel for better ventilation?  90% of my time will be working on CAD modeling, 10% on gaming (kinda scared to change that ratio since the machine will be too nice ?)....so I won't be pushing the machine too hard....thoughts? How fast the temperature raises playing a heavy game? in minutes? hours?

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, apsnewbie said:

Thanks a lot, these alternatives make sense but you're right...for piece of mind I'll just replace the PSU for a 850w...I'm not entirely sure how to run those cables as you described so I would need to spend more time understanding...plus...I found a video on youtube on how the replace the PSU and it looks straight forward to me. Of course I'm always trying to be smart with money, got a pre-owned 1080Ti...and I'm also here looking at a used PSU - would you buy this?

 

Look's like the installation of this massive video card won't be a problem after this PSU change...I guess my remaining questions are more towards performance: Will the 1080Ti card work well with my Workstation specs?

 

RAM: 10.0 GB (Speed: 5x 1333 / 1x 1066)

Octa Core, 8 x Intel Xeon 2.80 Ghz

 

How about heat dissipation? Looking at the motherboard picture there is only a small heat sink connected to it, I know that 90% of the GPU size is only on Heat sinking....should I be worried about overheating the motherboard? If I manage to install the GPU with the panel closed, I found a video showing that is possible...maybe would be smart to leave the Workstation without the panel for better ventilation?  90% of my time will be working on CAD modeling, 10% on gaming....so I won't be pushing the machine too hard....thoughts?

 

 

 

 

PSUs are easy to swap, just remember what you remove and put it back, the new PSU will have more than enough connections

 

No, tbh that seller has only 1 review.  I also don't like Ebay, but if you use Paypal I see no harm as you can get your money back.  The reason being is you just don't know...was this a miner PSU that was put to full load in a hot room for to long and the caps are bad?  I honestly try not to buy anything used so I should really not comment on that.

 

Next step would be overclocking that CPU to stable clocks, to get the most out of it - RAM is fine - if it were me however I would remove the 1 stick of 1066.  Because that makes all the other RAM run at 1066mhz for compatibility.  There are TONS of overclocking guides on that CPU.

 

I am a big fan of airflow, those workstations usually lack an intake.  Find a way to put in a 90mm or 120mm intake at the front bottom (use zip ties, your PC is closed who cares) and you should be just fine.  Leaving the side open works too :) Ive done that many-a-times lol.

 

Don't worry about the mobo overheating - it will shut down IF that was the issue, but I 100% don't see that being an issue at all.  Just make sure you have good airflow in and out of the PC, or remove the side panel and you should be just fine.

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16 minutes ago, apsnewbie said:

Thanks a lot, these alternatives make sense but you're right...for piece of mind I'll just replace the PSU for a 850w...I'm not entirely sure how to run those cables as you described so I would need to spend more time understanding...plus...I found a video on youtube on how the replace the PSU and it looks straight forward to me. Of course I'm always trying to be smart with money, got a pre-owned 1080Ti...and I'm also here looking at a used PSU - would you buy this?

 

Look's like the installation of this massive video card won't be a problem after this PSU change...I guess my remaining questions are more towards performance: Will the 1080Ti card work well with my Workstation specs?

 

RAM: 10.0 GB (Speed: 5x 1333 / 1x 1066)

Octa Core, 8 x Intel Xeon 2.80 Ghz

 

How about heat dissipation? Looking at the motherboard picture there is only a small heat sink connected to it, I know that 90% of the GPU size is only on Heat sinking....should I be worried about overheating the motherboard? If I manage to install the GPU with the panel closed, I found a video showing that is possible...maybe would be smart to leave the Workstation without the panel for better ventilation?  90% of my time will be working on CAD modeling, 10% on gaming....so I won't be pushing the machine too hard....thoughts?

 

 

 

 

Looking at the case again, add two exhausts at the bottom if you can and nothing on the front.  Create a Negative Air Pressure situation where its drawing in air from every crack it can because the exhaust is more than the intake as your setup has your GPU spinning hot air UP in the case (thermal dynamics already at play as well) so you need it sucking air out as much as possible if you are worried about heat.

 

Also these are neat and things like them to help get GPU air out of the case:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119065&cm_re=PCI_slot_fan-_-35-119-065-_-Product

 

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5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Looking at the case again, add two exhausts at the bottom if you can and nothing on the front.  Create a Negative Air Pressure situation where its drawing in air from every crack it can because the exhaust is more than the intake as your setup has your GPU spinning hot air UP in the case (thermal dynamics already at play as well) so you need it sucking air out as much as possible if you are worried about heat.

 

Also these are neat and things like them to help get GPU air out of the case:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119065&cm_re=PCI_slot_fan-_-35-119-065-_-Product

 

'Cool', So you mean I should install this Cooling Fan right underneath the 1080ti?  sounds great and inexpensive. Will that connect straight to the PSU? I'm wondering if I will have the right connectors to it.

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'Cool', So you mean I should install this Cooling Fan right underneath the 1080ti?  sounds great and inexpensive. Will that connect straight to the PSU? I'm wondering if I will have the right connectors to it.

That one in particular I would put *above* the GPU.  The orientation of your case looks like the fans of the GPU will point upwards, or towards the top mounted PSU.  What I Would want is for that hot air to not raise and sit (thermal dynamics, if nothing is removing that hot air but the PSU fan than it will just sit up there all hot and whatnot until fresh air brought in blah blah).

 

So I would put this above it, with the turbo intake facing the GPU so that the GPU spins hot air *up away from GPU* straight into the turbine sucking air out and pushing it out the back of your PC.

 

Or if you have fans laying around I would use either the places they are meant to have them in that case (I see two from the pics, 2 rear exhausts not being used) - I run 11 fans inside my case, and my thermals are AMAZING.  My PC doesn't break a sweat and its supposed to be a heater (125w CPU alone, plus 2 Pitcairn GPUs)

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You just got a 1080Ti 

stop listening to the poster above and get a NEW PSU. 

A decent T1 or T2 around 750-850W is around 100$ 

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2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

That one in particular I would put *above* the GPU.  The orientation of your case looks like the fans of the GPU will point upwards, or towards the top mounted PSU.  What I Would want is for that hot air to not raise and sit (thermal dynamics, if nothing is removing that hot air but the PSU fan than it will just sit up there all hot and whatnot until fresh air brought in blah blah).

 

So I would put this above it, with the turbo intake facing the GPU so that the GPU spins hot air *up away from GPU* straight into the turbine sucking air out and pushing it out the back of your PC.

 

Or if you have fans laying around I would use either the places they are meant to have them in that case (I see two from the pics, 2 rear exhausts not being used) - I run 11 fans inside my case, and my thermals are AMAZING.  My PC doesn't break a sweat and its supposed to be a heater (125w CPU alone, plus 2 Pitcairn GPUs)

Got it, makes sense now...creating a L-shape flow of air -  up and horizontal out of case, smart!

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1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

 

Did you know that the SAME EXACT MODEL PSU GOES INTO THE ALIENWARE AURORA desktop?  So if its good enough for a Workstation (they are gooooood PSU's, usually platinum rated - placed that use them cant just have them fail, they make money off these machines) and good enough for ALIENWARE 

Alienware and dell doesn’t always do good things. 

It may have been good for the time but now not so much. 

 

I wouldn’t trust this PSU on a 600$ GPU for more than a few hours. 

 

Edit:

please stop recommending adaptors, molex and SATA even 2 can’t supply 150W

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4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

You just got a 1080Ti 

stop listening to the poster above and get a NEW PSU. 

A decent T1 or T2 around 750-850W is around 100$ 

I am...its a 1080ti after all !

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6 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

You just got a 1080Ti 

stop listening to the poster above and get a NEW PSU. 

A decent T1 or T2 around 750-850W is around 100$ 

You mad cause it works?  That was the question.  That is the answer lol

 

And if you just read - bro - you will see that each iterations I say, or replace the PSU.

 

But sure don't listen to me, the guy responding...with actual answers...in real time...but sure bro!

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1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

You mad cause it works?  That was the question.  That is the answer lol

 

And if you just read - bro - you will see that each iterations I say, or replace the PSU.

 

But sure don't listen to me, the guy responding...with actual answers...in real time...but sure bro!

Nope, I’ve run my 970 and a overclocked 6600K on some sketchy units, I don’t recommend it. 

 

You do but at the same time provide other ideas, I would have just stop bringing up the idea of adapters. 

 

Ive been reading this for the last half hour, I just finally got out my phone because I’m logged in on it to post. 

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4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

Alienware and dell doesn’t always do good things. 

It may have been good for the time but now not so much. 

 

I wouldn’t trust this PSU on a 600$ GPU for more than a few hours. 

 

Edit:

please stop recommending adaptors, molex and SATA even 2 can’t supply 150W

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

Nope, I’ve run my 970 and a overclocked 6600K on some sketchy units, I don’t recommend it. 

 

You do but at the same time provide other ideas, I would have just stop bringing up the idea of adapters. 

 

Ive been reading this for the last half hour, I just finally got out my phone because I’m logged in on it to post. 

Not recommending it, and it working are two completely differing things.

 

I am not wrong.  I bet you $100 bucks all these will work for longer than 2 hours.  If the OP had only this option and this option alone these options work and are the cheapest.  If he can get a new PSU that is the best for piece of mind.

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