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2 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

It's never happened before though

maybe mud inside the rim

could be brake pads, brake calipers, brake rotors/drums

wheel alignment

 

front or rear, even if its coming from the front, could be a problem in the rear

TL:DR So today I was heading back from shopping and once I got my car going ~55 - 60mph my steering wheel started to shake. (not enough to send the car off the road or anything but enough that it arose some concern) Anyone know what could be causing it or what I could look for?

 

 

 ----- I do some stupid shit so I wouldn't be surprised if this was my fault, but I had a good time ----

 

Actual story: I went to town today to go shopping for some food and some stuff to clean up my calipers and rotors. Before going to town I had removed the drivers side wheel to assess what I would need to buy. Went to town, and went a little slower than I usually do (Usually go between 60-70 mph on our light back roads) but I just went slower because I was feeling like cruising and listening to music, so Im not sure I was ever going fast enough to notice it on the way, but im sure I did at some point. Got to town, ended up running into an empty / muddy parking lot where I had some fun trying to do donuts and slide my car a bit. Ended up getting everything else  I needed and then on the way back I noticed the steering shaking. Pulled over and re-tightened all the lug nuts on the car, just in case. No luck in that. When I got back home I jacked up my car and used a pneumatic impact drill to take the wheels off and make sure the weights were still on and everything and make sure they were on perfectly. Took it back out and the shaking stopped at the 55-60 range but started again (with less vigor) around 65.

 

Issues that have to do with the front steering / suspension / drivetrain:

Need new tires - front pair is basically at the end of life for safety

Need an alignment - long story, slightly messed up the front left camber because I marked the bolt wrong. Havent had any issues with it though, also just generally needs an alignment

Need new drivers side CV axle -  Front Diff side boot is torn

(According to dealership) need a new front right strut

(According to dealership) need a new power steering rack (currently leaking)

 

Sorry this is all over the place. Im just kinda typing as I think lol.

 

Thank you guys. Also hope everyone is having a great night

 

Vehicle is an 05 WRX Wagon.

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but because i had a similar issue in my car recently, is there any squeaking/grinding coming from the front wheel(s) when you turn a corner do you feel the steering wheel pulling in that direction even after you've straightened out?

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Also possible the wheels themselves need to be rebalanced. A missing wheel weight could also cause vibrations.  

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3 minutes ago, Arika S said:

but because i had a similar issue in my car recently, is there any squeaking/grinding coming from the front wheel(s) when you turn a corner do you feel the steering wheel pulling in that direction even after you've straightened out?

Not that I noticed. There were a couple times I thought the car might have been pulling left but that was because of the uneven pavement on my roads. 

 

Did some searches earlier about it and just got some generic what it could be, but a minute ago I found a post suggesting that the snow (or in my case mud) gets caught in the rims and can imbalance the wheels. I'll clean it out tomorrow and see what changes 

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Just now, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Also possible the wheels themselves need to be rebalanced. A missing wheel weight could also cause vibrations.  

Wheel weights were all there, just saw something that the mud could be imbalanceing the wheels so I'll check tomorrow 

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Also if anyone cares this was the aftermath. 10/10 would get dirty again

 

Sorry it's a bad photo 

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33 minutes ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

TL:DR So today I was heading back from shopping and once I got my car going ~55 - 60mph my steering wheel started to shake. (not enough to send the car off the road or anything but enough that it arose some concern) Anyone know what could be causing it or what I could look for?

 

 

 ----- I do some stupid shit so I wouldn't be surprised if this was my fault, but I had a good time ----

 

Actual story: I went to town today to go shopping for some food and some stuff to clean up my calipers and rotors. Before going to town I had removed the drivers side wheel to assess what I would need to buy. Went to town, and went a little slower than I usually do (Usually go between 60-70 mph on our light back roads) but I just went slower because I was feeling like cruising and listening to music, so Im not sure I was ever going fast enough to notice it on the way, but im sure I did at some point. Got to town, ended up running into an empty / muddy parking lot where I had some fun trying to do donuts and slide my car a bit. Ended up getting everything else  I needed and then on the way back I noticed the steering shaking. Pulled over and re-tightened all the lug nuts on the car, just in case. No luck in that. When I got back home I jacked up my car and used a pneumatic impact drill to take the wheels off and make sure the weights were still on and everything and make sure they were on perfectly. Took it back out and the shaking stopped at the 55-60 range but started again (with less vigor) around 65.

 

Issues that have to do with the front steering / suspension / drivetrain:

Need new tires - front pair is basically at the end of life for safety

Need an alignment - long story, slightly messed up the front left camber because I marked the bolt wrong. Havent had any issues with it though, also just generally needs an alignment

Need new drivers side CV axle -  Front Diff side boot is torn

(According to dealership) need a new front right strut

(According to dealership) need a new power steering rack (currently leaking)

 

Sorry this is all over the place. Im just kinda typing as I think lol.

 

Thank you guys. Also hope everyone is having a great night

 

Vehicle is an 05 WRX Wagon.

 

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1 hour ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

~55 - 60mph

Is it only at that speed?

 

If so then wheel balancing.

Also sometimes certain cars have a slight shake at certain speeds and 60mph seems about right.

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7 hours ago, Canada EH said:

Is it only at that speed?

 

If so then wheel balancing.

Also sometimes certain cars have a slight shake at certain speeds and 60mph seems about right.

Alright I'll take a better look at the balancing

 

It's never happened before though so I don't think it's vehicle specific 

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8 hours ago, DaPhuc said:

 

Thanks I'll go check those out 

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2 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

It's never happened before though

maybe mud inside the rim

could be brake pads, brake calipers, brake rotors/drums

wheel alignment

 

front or rear, even if its coming from the front, could be a problem in the rear

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Personally, I'll soon be replacing a front wheel bearing to resolve a similar issue. Whenever I hit around 60+ I get some noticeable shake in the wheel. Ford dealer did a free "25 point inspection" when I brought my Explorer in for a state inspection and said that's what the problem was, so it was an easy diagnosis for me

 

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22 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Also possible the wheels themselves need to be rebalanced. A missing wheel weight could also cause vibrations.  

I bought my car and used the bad wheel balancing to physically feel how fast I was going for like a year. Finally took it in and had to get new tires because they were literally on wires and bulges.

I take very poor care of my car.

 

Does the vibrating get worse when braking? It could be warped rotors as well.

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Sounds like a definite wheel alignment/balance.

 

Had it on my 80 series landcruiser, after a wheel alignment she was all good to go again. I had shaking at around 70 km/h.

 

 

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On 10/18/2018 at 10:54 AM, Canada EH said:

maybe mud inside the rim

could be brake pads, brake calipers, brake rotors/drums

wheel alignment

 

front or rear, even if its coming from the front, could be a problem in the rear

Yeah it was mud. Thanks!

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