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Take-Two Interactive obtained a search warrant to search the homes and computers of alleged "cheat developers"

Take-Two Interactive obtained a search warrant to search the homes and computers of the people allegedly behind the 'Infamous' mod menu

 

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Take-Two Interactive, the parent company of Grand Theft Auto's publisher Rockstar Games, continues to go after cheat developers. In Australia, that recently included obtaining a court order to search the homes and computers of the alleged developers of the “Infamous” mod menu cheat. The developers' assets were also frozen by the Australian government.

The searches, first reported by Torrent Freak, targeted five individuals alleged to have been behind the Infamous cheat for GTA Online: Christopher Anderson, Cyrus Lesser, Sfinktah, Koroush Anderson, and Koroush Jeddian.

 

The search order identified two Melbourne locations to be raided, allowing lawyers to enter the target residences and vehicles to search, copy, and remove all relevant evidence, computers, or storage devices related to the Infamous cheat. Take-Two Interactive and Rockstar Games are both identified as "applicants" for the search order. Two lawyers from the Bird & Bird law firm representing Rockstar and Take-Two were part of the "search party" that was allowed to look through their computers, along with independent lawyers and an independent "computer expert."

The Infamous cheat allowed players to effectively do pretty much anything they could imagine in game, from quickly accessing the best vehicles, weapons, and perks, to making blood, guts, and fireworks magically erupt from in-game character models.

 

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The court orders in question also prohibit the mod makers from creating or using game cheats under risk of imprisonment, and placed a freeze on the developers’ assets, Paypal, and cryptocurrency accounts, prohibiting them from withdrawing anything more than modest living expenses.

“You must not remove from Australia or in any way dispose of, deal with or diminish the value of any of your assets in Australia (Australian assets) up to the unencumbered value of AU$286,609.80 (the Relevant Amount),” the order states.

While the cheats can be entertaining for users, they can obviously undermine enjoyment for users playing fairly in online modes. Such cheats can often be quite profitable for developers, who can charge everything from a one-time fee to a subscription rate. Unless they use a PC, users also need to buy a modded last-gen console, running anywhere from $200 to $500 (US).

Take-Two Interactive has been historically hard nosed about shutting down cheats, going so far as to even shutter programs that modify Grand Theft Auto’s single player mode. The entertainment industry at large has also increasingly tried to claim that single-player cheats and mods violate copyright, a claim copyright experts routinely contest.

In contrast to Take-Two’s more scorched earth approach to the problem, Grand Theft Auto developer Rockstar Games has sometimes taken a gentler approach. It has occasionally intervened to stop Take-Two from shuttering free single-player mods and cheats that can actually improve the in-game experience without ruining GTA Online for non-cheating players.

 

Sourced from https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yw949v/lawyers-for-gta-online-get-court-order-to-search-homes-of-alleged-cheat-makers

 

 

 

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Just now, The Cheeto Bomb said:

My thoughts: 

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." - US Constitution 4th Amendment. I do understand that this is in Australia

What? Talk about irrelevant. Not only are you quoting legislature from another country that doesn't apply, you're misinterpreting it as well. The police had a court ordered warrant to search those locations and freeze those assets. That American 4th Amendment protects against unreasaonable searches and seizures without a warrant or reason to search. Clearly, in this case, they had a reason and court issued warrant to perform the search.

 

I have no sympathy for these people. GTA V online is completely ruined by hackers/cheaters to the point where I refuse to play in open Public servers, which is disappointing as Rockstar locks the most profitable and enjoyable gameplay features to Public servers. Rockstar needs to put more effort in to protecting the game itself from hacks and cheats, but going after the people publishing, selling and profiting off of cheats is a start and just one of the tools in the toolbox they need to address the issues. 

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12 minutes ago, lewdicrous said:

"I use cheats"

(...)

My mind, immediately:

 

Spoiler

 

:P 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I have no sympathy for these people. GTA V online is completely ruined by hackers/cheaters to the point where I refuse to play in open Public servers

It's two different things. I have no sympathy for shitposters or youtube commenters; what is a reasonable action against such behavior, or whether it warrants any public authority action at all, it's a separate discussion, independent of how they make us feel.

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1 minute ago, Spotty said:

Rockstar needs to put more effort in to protecting the game itself from hacks and cheat. 

I've previously developed hacks for numerous games primarily for educational purposes and I can tell it doesn't matter how much they invest in anti cheat software. It will always be defeated and it will be done in a very short time period. Look at it like DRM its usually cracked in a day or two of launch. You also have large communities into video game hacking like MPGH which a lot of people will already do the leg work for you and all you have to do is update your base code to the required addresses and your good to go. 

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21 minutes ago, Spotty said:

What? Talk about irrelevant. Not only are you quoting legislature from another country that doesn't apply, you're misinterpreting it as well. The police had a court ordered warrant to search those locations and freeze those assets. That American 4th Amendment protects against unreasaonable searches and seizures without a warrant or reason to search. Clearly, in this case, they had a reason and court issued warrant to perform the search.

 

I have no sympathy for these people. GTA V online is completely ruined by hackers/cheaters to the point where I refuse to play in open Public servers, which is disappointing as Rockstar locks the most profitable and enjoyable gameplay features to Public servers. Rockstar needs to put more effort in to protecting the game itself from hacks and cheats, but going after the people publishing, selling and profiting off of cheats is a start and just one of the tools in the toolbox they need to address the issues. 

You can join a public solo session through some black magic (not really it’s super ez assuming you don’t know this already) but what’s the fun without getting blown up by other people online right?

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28 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

Jesus, that's a bit excessive I would say, for a 5 year old game.

It still sells well.

 

If the enjoyment of a game is ruined, it sells less, and there are monetary consequences.

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Just now, IdiotPenguin said:

You can join a public solo session through some black magic (not really it’s super ez assuming you don’t know this already) but what’s the fun without getting blown up by other people online right?

Not black magic, just suspend the game using task manager and resume it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it as well.

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8 minutes ago, trag1c said:

I've previously developed hacks for numerous games primarily for educational purposes and I can tell it doesn't matter how much they invest in anti cheat software. It will always be defeated and it will be done in a very short time period. Look at it like DRM its usually cracked in a day or two of launch. You also have large communities into video game hacking like MPGH which a lot of people will already do the leg work for you and all you have to do is update your base code to the required addresses and your good to go. 

True.... But Legal action against people making the cheats can't be the only avenue they take to protect their games. They also need to actively take steps to try and block known cheats from working in the game, even if it means that a few days or weeks later new cheats pop up replacing them. As I said they need a toolbox full of tools to tackle the issue.

One of the issues I've commonly faced with GTA V hackers is they instantly kill all the players in a server constantly. As soon as you spawn, you're killed. Spawn, die. Spawn, die. Repeat. Since you can't access the in game menu when you die, you are unable to report the player or even exit the server. The only way to get out of the spawn-die loop is to Alt+F4 out of the game. If you're unable to even report the cheaters or even leave the game that is an issue.

 

1 minute ago, IdiotPenguin said:

You can join a public solo session through some black magic (not really it’s super ez assuming you don’t know this already) but what’s the fun without getting blown up by other people online right?

Yeah, that's what I do if I want to play any of the missions that require you to be in a public server. I suspend the process in Resource Monitor for a few seconds and it times out trying to connect to a public server and puts you in to a solo Public server. Really though players shouldn't have to do this to be able to play the game without being harassed by cheaters/hackers.

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5 minutes ago, EMC said:

Not black magic, just suspend the game using task manager and resume it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google it as well.

Yes I’m aware I just forgot what task manager was called and referred it as “black magic”

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And the best thing about Australian law, take two can look for the evidence with independent experts, lawyers and witnesses there to ensure the search is fair and above board,  and at the same time if they don't find anything they have successfully given the suspects a green light to sue them for defamation and personal damages.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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This is getting a bit crazy now. But I do agree that cheats ruin it for everyone. Like I always say, unless you're playing offline and by yourself. Don't cheat! 

 

I admit I have "cheated" but not during online play, I have only "cheated" and by cheated I use that term loosely as by it I mean I use mods. GTA V and Skyrim are a good example of mods which could also be perceived as cheats. 

 

But yes anyone selling the cheats deserve to have this happen. As for people doing the actual cheating (with the cheats) I feel like a permanent ban is in order and for repeat offenders then a formal cease and desist letter otherwise court action will be taken is enough. 

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This is fucking retarded. Im sorry but if you support jail or raiding cheaters you are moronic. Imagine police raiding some dudes house because he was caught cheating in a park in chess. 

 

Its a fucking game and you can control who you play with. 

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7 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

This is fucking retarded. Im sorry but if you support jail or raiding cheaters you are moronic. Imagine police raiding some dudes house because he was caught cheating in a park in chess. 

 

Its a fucking game and you can control who you play with. 

 

I hate to say it but those who cheat are generally also known for harassment. It's easier for them to go after the cheat makers than to go after all the harassers that use it. I can understand cheating for your own enjoyment but once it negatively affects other players the cheaters are just dicks.

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23 minutes ago, Paranoid Kami said:

More action needs to be taken against cheaters 

But what if the mod was for off line use

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1 minute ago, rcmaehl said:

 

I hate to say it but those who cheat are generally also known for harassment. It's easier for them to go after the cheat makers than to go after all the harassers that use it.

I guess I dont understand what you mean. If you mean cheaters also harass other players....I see the most harassment from people generally not good at a game and blame you for cheating. I guess your point of view all depends what you consider harassment. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Paranoid Kami said:

More action needs to be taken against cheaters 

I see you have the TF2 Red logo. I can understand where you're coming from, especially with TF2. The main issue with cheats is that people use them to harass and negatively affect other players, as well as a lack of people willing to kick players whom are cheating within the TF2 community. Cheats can be used responsibly but no one does.

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I think this is unbelievably stupid. I doubt this has anything to do with "player enjoyment" and has more to do with hackers handing out money that causes players to not spend real money on shark cards which at this point most likely makes up the majority of GTA5's revinue. Gatta make these new DLCs too fucking expensive to get it by just playing the game.

 

They are already known for banning people and resetting their accounts simply because players have "too much money.

 

Most of the hackers I've seen are pretty chill and just want to make the game more interesting for people that may be burned out.

 

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meh just going to buy my cheats somewhere else

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