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What should i upgrade to?

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I currently made the mistake of getting an h370-f motherboard thinking I'd be able to overclock, which i was ashamed to find out i couldn't. (although i kind of dont mind, i dont want my system to crash all the time or monitor it)
But seeing how i want the best of the best performance, overclocking is a necessity for that scenario. 
This is my specs for my desktop atm:
Asus strix H370-F 

Corsair vengence 16GB DDR4 2400Mhz 

i3 8300 
650w corsair CX650M 

 

I want to game at 1080p 144hz, i sold my gtx 1060 3gb because it wasnt able to deliver that performance. I don't want any bottlenecking either, so i have $479 plus a possible $300+ if i returned my items to amazon and bought an overclockable motherboard. 
Preferably i would like RGB computer parts because common they look pretty nice 

Mainly i want to play FPS games, Assassins creed games, and those horror type games like outlast.
RPG games as well, but the main thing i play is mainly any FPS. 

Needs to last at least a couple years with ultra settings because i keep running into bottlenecks 

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8 minutes ago, Zeta_191 said:

which i was ashamed to find out i couldn't. (although i kind of dont mind, i dont want my system to crash all the time or monitor it)

your CPU doesnt allow overclocking either

 

1080p ultra? Get the 1070ti first.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

your CPU doesnt support it either

 

1080p ultra? Get the 1070ti first.

Would a CPU upgrade be necessary or the GTX 1070 Ti is fine paired with the i3 8300?

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $149.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $68.38 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card $364.98 @ Newegg Business
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $613.35
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $583.35
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-17 15:37 EDT-0400  

 

 

Main Rig:

Case: Lian Li Lancool Mesh RGB

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 

Cooler: CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240

MB: MSI B550 Gaming Pro Carbon 

Ram: Gskill DDR4 3600 x 32GB 

GPU: Asus Arez Strix Vega 64 OC

PS: Seasonic FOCUS Gold Plus Series SSR-750FX

SSD1: Crucial P1 1TB NVME

SSD2: Adata SU800 512gb M.2 Sata

HDD: Hitatchi 2tb 7200RPM + 3x 2TB WD Passport USB 3.0

Monitors: AOC C24G1

Keyboard: Cheap Blue Knockoff Mechanical

Mouse: Uhuru Gaming Mouse
OS: Pop! 21.04



Current Vintage Equipment:  Please ask me about it, I love to talk old tech!
IBM Thinkpad 390, IBM Aptiva A12, IBM PS/2 Model 25-004.  Compaq Contura 4/25C, Presario 7596
Asus P5A-B Socket 7 Box, Tandy 1000RLX-HD "B" & 1200-2FD, VIC20, Zenith ZFL-181-93, Packard Bell 300SX.

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1 minute ago, Zeta_191 said:

Would a CPU upgrade be necessary or the GTX 1070 Ti is fine paired with the i3 8300?

If you use 1080p ultra settings then the CPU shouldnt affect performance, of course it's good to upgrade the CPU if you have the money.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, zombienerd said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $149.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $68.38 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card $364.98 @ Newegg Business
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $613.35
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $583.35
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-17 15:37 EDT-0400  

 

 

that leaves out a good $100-$200
Because i can theoretically have $700+ if i returned my cpu and motherboard 

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Just now, Zeta_191 said:

that leaves out a good $100-$200
Because i can theoretically have $700+ if i returned my cpu and motherboard 

$700 won't get you the best of the best performance.  You can't afford that, from what you're saying.  You want a good bang/buck build. 

 

The above poster listed a good balance, so do you have a good large SSD for your game library to minimize load times?  You could go i5 but the 2600 is just as good for cheaper, and you don't have enough for 8700K and motherboard.

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Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Samsung 27" + Dell 24" 

 

Raven:  Intel i3 10100F - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Inland 256GB SSD + Toshiba 2TB HDD - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Spectre 24" 

 

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1 minute ago, Zeta_191 said:

that leaves out a good $100-$200
Because i can theoretically have $700+ if i returned my cpu and motherboard 

Indeed.  AMD is currently the best price to performance leader.  That R5 will blow your I3 out of the water.

 

Take that extra cash and get a nice CLC Water cooler, with RGB, and some light strips, and have a great day :D

Main Rig:

Case: Lian Li Lancool Mesh RGB

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 

Cooler: CoolerMaster MasterLiquid 240

MB: MSI B550 Gaming Pro Carbon 

Ram: Gskill DDR4 3600 x 32GB 

GPU: Asus Arez Strix Vega 64 OC

PS: Seasonic FOCUS Gold Plus Series SSR-750FX

SSD1: Crucial P1 1TB NVME

SSD2: Adata SU800 512gb M.2 Sata

HDD: Hitatchi 2tb 7200RPM + 3x 2TB WD Passport USB 3.0

Monitors: AOC C24G1

Keyboard: Cheap Blue Knockoff Mechanical

Mouse: Uhuru Gaming Mouse
OS: Pop! 21.04



Current Vintage Equipment:  Please ask me about it, I love to talk old tech!
IBM Thinkpad 390, IBM Aptiva A12, IBM PS/2 Model 25-004.  Compaq Contura 4/25C, Presario 7596
Asus P5A-B Socket 7 Box, Tandy 1000RLX-HD "B" & 1200-2FD, VIC20, Zenith ZFL-181-93, Packard Bell 300SX.

Apple II/gs, Mac Plus x2, Mac SE x2, Performa 450

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

If you use 1080p ultra settings then the CPU shouldnt affect performance, of course it's good to upgrade the CPU if you have the money.

Yeah i really don't have the money for a 1070 Ti AND a CPU upgrade, unless i got a used GTX 1070 ti and bought the new intel i5. 
I'd rather keep things new though so, yeah i'll look at benchmarks for the i3 8100 and GTX 1070 Ti.
Thanks!

Also zombienerd, i really don't want a ryzen system, i know its affordable but i've seen games do better with intel chips due to optimization 

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2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

 

$700 won't get you the best of the best performance.  You can't afford that, from what you're saying.  You want a good bang/buck build. 

 

The above poster listed a good balance, so do you have a good large SSD for your game library to minimize load times?  You could go i5 but the 2600 is just as good for cheaper, and you don't have enough for 8700K and motherboard.

forgot to mention i have a 120GB SSD, 1TB hard drive, and another 500GB hard drive with 16GB intel optane

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Get the Ryzen system listed above, its a much better option.

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