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Anything coming *SOON* that is more powerful than the Intel Core i9-9900K

Hello, and good morning. 

 

With the Intel i9 9900K chip just being released, is there any more expensive chip that would be coming in the near future that is geared more for the user in a work environment ?

 

I was debating upgrading to this chip, but my son suggests I should wait until Intel releases their higher performance chips, but I did some Googling and can't seem to find any info, IF and when

any new chip is even hitting the market that would be much more powerful.

 

I am not tech minded, am getting old, and leave it up to my son now to give me advice, but he could not find any info on anything coming soon.  So at this point, should I upgrade to this chip ? or wait

a few months and hope that Intel brings out more $ chips for this series ?

 

My current chip is the i7-3930K, and although it was a good chip years ago, this is no longer the case.  For normal day to day stuff, it's fine, but anything video editing related is starting to

really slow down my overall workflow.

 

Thanks for any info, and help !  I appreciate it.

 

My current setup:

System currently is i7-3930K , GTX 680, 64 gb of DDR3 ram, and SSD drives.  I run 4 monitors with this system. 

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If you want video editing or any kind of rendering, you want a Threadripper. 

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6 minutes ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

in a work environment ?

If that means multicore rendering, then yes. Skylake-X and Threadripper both crush the 9900k easily in those things.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Brand new chip was just released and you're already itching for more? Well one thing is certain, LGA 1151 is done now. If you have a desire for core count and not single threaded, you need threadripper. If you need fast single cores you need the i9 9900k, full stop. A new graphics card wouldn't hurt too.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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I guess my original question wasn't clear.  All I wish to know, is - has anyone heard of any new more powerful chips coming from Intel in this series ?

At this time, this chip is only $699 here in Canada.  I'm looking at spending more in the $1200 range to ensure a much more powerful chip and the need

to NOT upgrade in 2 or 3 years. 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Brand new chip was just released and you're already itching for more? Well one thing is certain, LGA 1151 is done now. If you have a desire for core count and not single threaded, you need threadripper. If you need fast single cores you need the i9 9900k, full stop. A new graphics card wouldn't hurt too.

Hi there, my son says that when a new chip is release like this one ( which I know is a beast ) he said there will be higher priced chips coming along....  but I have not been able to find any info on that.  I've just bought an Nvidia 1080Ti and that will go into this new computer.  The RTX just doesn't do much for video editing from about 12 videos I've already watched about this on YouTube.  It's a major upgrade from the card I have now. 

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

around this time, next year. like every year.

wowie, that's a long time to wait.  I guess I will be going with this new Intel chip for the moment.  Inexpensive for what it is in reality.  My son says "inexpensive ? " he thought the chip was expensive, but it depends on who you ask.  I know another graphics editor that purchased an older Intel chip that costs $2550 currently on Amazon.  That there is out of the question for me, I still have to eat . 

 

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1 minute ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

Hi there, my son says that when a new chip is release like this one ( which I know is a beast ) he said there will be higher priced chips coming along....  but I have not been able to find any info on that.  I've just bought an Nvidia 1080Ti and that will go into this new computer.  The RTX just doesn't do much for video editing from about 12 videos I've already watched about this on YouTube.  It's a major upgrade from the card I have now. 

Nothing new is coming in any short amount of time for the consumer platform, you need to look to x299 for that. Core i9 7980XE is best right now, but they're releasing an x599 chipset and a z399 chipset for the many core CPUs.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If that means multicore rendering, then yes. Skylake-X and Threadripper both crush the 9900k easily in those things.

This Skylake-X - is this something that is available now ?

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Nothing new is coming in any short amount of time for the consumer platform, you need to look to x299 for that. Core i9 7980XE is best right now, but they're releasing an x599 chipset and a z399 chipset for the many core CPUs.

ah ! - you just mentioned the chip my friend uses - the Core i9 7980XE -- this chips is a whooping $2550 .... ouch.  It is blazing fast though.

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2 minutes ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

This Skylake-X - is this something that is available now ?

Like, what apps will you run with the new CPU? I mean, saying Skylake-X flagship (9980XE) is better than 9900k is like saying a plane is faster than a bike. Sure it reaches higher speeds, but good luck offroading with a plane. It's just not faster in everything, we need to know what you're doing with it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Like, what apps will you run with the new CPU? I mean, saying Skylake-X flagship (9980XE) is better than 9900k is like saying a plane is faster than a bike. Sure it reaches higher speeds, but good luck offroading with a plane. It's just not faster in everything, we need to know what you're doing with it.

I use nothing but Premiere Pro and After Effects.  ( I do no gaming ) 

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2 minutes ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

ah ! - you just mentioned the chip my friend uses - the Core i9 7980XE -- this chips is a whooping $2550 .... ouch.  It is blazing fast though.

You can get that core count or more for a lot less money on AMD's x399 motherboards. You should check them out, they have 64 PCIe lanes and a mind boggling 32 core max.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

I use nothing but Premiere Pro and After Effects.  ( I do no gaming ) 

then 9900k is your best choice. Adobe stuff prefer single core performance, then core count. More expensive CPUs don't reach single core speeds of 9900k. Besides, the multicore performance is mostly used in the export state, in which you could just leave the machine to do it's own thing. Unlike when you're editing it, in which smoothness is far more important.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Comparison-Skylake-X-Kaby-Lake-X-Broadwell-E-Kaby-Lake-Ryzen-7-969/

You can see how poorly high core count scales with single core performance

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, TheGraphicsGuy said:

I use nothing but Premiere Pro and After Effects.  ( I do no gaming ) 

then the best on offer is AMD threadripper, ranging from 8 to 32 cores. 1950x 16 core is 920$ canadian

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then 9900k is your best choice. Adobe stuff prefer single core performance, then core count. More expensive CPUs don't reach single core speeds of 9900k. Besides, the multicore performance is mostly used in the export state, in which you could just leave the machine to do it's own thing. Unlike when you're editing it, in which smoothness is far more important.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Comparison-Skylake-X-Kaby-Lake-X-Broadwell-E-Kaby-Lake-Ryzen-7-969/

You can see how poorly high core count scales with single core performance

Wow, thank you for that info. I'm reading it now.  Amazing the free info you can get just by signing up to a forum and asking a question.  Thank you.

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Just now, LinusTech said:

So cool to see the community helping people out like this :D

Holy cow ! .... Linus !  you actually saw this thread ? wow !!  and... AND !  .... my son is your biggest fan !! .... I edit in my studio every day, he goes into his area, fires up his computer, and 2 minutes later I hear

you on his computer speakers !  haha, he loves you !   

 

wow, he's going to get a big grin reading this Linus !  ?

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Does anyone know when the Intel i9 9900K is officially going on sale in Canada ?

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On 10/18/2018 at 6:20 AM, TheGraphicsGuy said:

Does anyone know when the Intel i9 9900K is officially going on sale in Canada ?

Not sure if you're aware of the current supply issues of Intel products but currently they are a bit light and with the 9900K being so new good sales on it are going to be rare for now. The standard big holidays will be the most likely for it to go on sale but I wouldn't expect more than 10%.

 

As a bit of extra information have a look in to Intel Quick Sync which can be used to accelerate Adobe Premiere, this is only available on standard Intel desktop CPUs with iGPUs so not those big X299 $1000-$2500 CPUs. You might not want to use it though, it's not perfect so do a bit of research on it but it can give a huge speed up.

 

Here's a good video head start on it for you.

Written version: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

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7 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Not sure if you're aware of the current supply issues of Intel products but currently they are a bit light and with the 9900K being so new good sales on it are going to be rare for now. The standard big holidays will be the most likely for it to go on sale but I wouldn't expect more than 10%.

 

As a bit of extra information have a look in to Intel Quick Sync which can be used to accelerate Adobe Premiere, this is only available on standard Intel desktop CPUs with iGPUs so not those big X299 $1000-$2500 CPUs. You might not want to use it though, it's not perfect so do a bit of research on it but it can give a huge speed up.

 

Here's a good video head start on it for you.

Written version: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

Gee, I had NOT seen this video, I'm going to go watch it now, already 20 seconds in, and it's a must watch !  Thank you for sharing this leadeater !

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