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URGENT AMD 2200g HELP

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There 2 option for Bios update

 

Go to a computer repair shop and ask it they can do it , You need first generation CPU  to get the right Bios.

 

Go to AMD web site and fill form for a kit with first generation CPU. From what I have read , you need to return it , but shipping should be free.

So CPU finally came in today go back through some of my other posts to get a longer story but i got it and went to install it.. huh well crap motherboard with everything connected heat sink installation was a no go... so bit it and disassembled the case (only missing ram) had trouble installing the heat sink had to kind of press it down (not crazy hard but its on there but... it felt rough got power to the board did a quick power on with just the psu and fan spins... duh but the cpu error light is still on 

 

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You'll probably need to update the bios, B350 boards were first gen Ryzen boards, depending how long that board had been sat in a store/warehouse, it won't have the correct BIOS for 2nd gen Ryzen chips.

 

To update the BIOS you'll need a compatible 1st gen CPU, or a local computer store may be able to do it for you.

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Your post is hard to read, I've got no idea what you're saying. If you want people to help, improve your writing and give us more details. 

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1 minute ago, Frenky said:

Your post is hard to read, I've got no idea what you're saying. If you want people to help, improve your writing and give us more details. 

It wasn't even that hard to read honestly and ya don't even need to read it to see that it's probably a BIOS issue, just the motherboard and CPU combo gives it away.

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2 minutes ago, iRileyx said:

You'll probably need to update the bios, B350 boards were first gen Ryzen boards, depending how long that board had been sat in a store/warehouse, it won't have the correct BIOS for 2nd gen Ryzen chips.

True yes TBH i thought everything would be fine since there were about 5 bios updates before hand

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1 minute ago, Fez760 said:

True yes TBH i thought everything would be fine since there were about 5 bios updates before hand

Just because BIOS updates were brought out doesn't mean the board will have them, the board has to be manufactured after those dates for it to have the BIOS installed. If it's been sat in a a warehouse or a stores storage for a few months, it'll have an earlier bios on it.

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Is there anyway to check without getting the RAM in before hand

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Just now, Fez760 said:

Is there anyway to check without getting the RAM in before hand

Only way you could check would be if you had a 1st gen Ryzen chip to test in it, to see if it actually boots.

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Just now, iRileyx said:

Only way you could check would be if you had a 1st gen Ryzen chip to test in it, to see if it actually boots.

Read as, you need ram before you can check anything.

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1 minute ago, iRileyx said:

Only way you could check would be if you had a 1st gen Ryzen chip to test in it, to see if it actually boots.

well really regretting my go with the 2200g to get it up and running first idea

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9 minutes ago, Fez760 said:

 

As in you don't have RAM, or you left the RAM in?

Just try reseating your RAM and try it a few times, DDR4 can be a pain, make sure it's really pressed in there and wiggle it around a bit to get it settled.

 

Also that board isn't good for an APU, you should just return it, it doesn't have a heatsink over the VRM above the CPU, and that's where the iGPU will draw all of it's power

 

you want an ASrock Pro 4, MSI Tomahawk, or Gigabyte B450 ITX board at minimum

 

3 minutes ago, Fez760 said:

Is there anyway to check without getting the RAM in before hand

If you don't have DDR4 at all it's not going to post

The R3 2200G is a perfectly fine budget CPU/GPU

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The boards with updates BIOS versions should still be shipping with a sticker that says "Second Generation Ready" or something like that.

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2 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Read as, you need ram before you can check anything.

Hmm, maybe his first post is a bit hard to read after all xD 

 

1 minute ago, Fez760 said:

well really regretting my go with the 2200g to get it up and running first idea

So you dont actually have the RAM to install yet?

 

That'll be why you can't boot. You need RAM to boot.

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Just now, Lurick said:

The boards with updates BIOS versions should still be shipping with a sticker that says "Second Generation Ready" or something like that.

I also completely forgot about that as well wow it seems a lot slipped my mind since its finally happening

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Just now, Fez760 said:

I also completely forgot about that as well wow it seems a lot slipped my mind since its finally happening

Whatever RAM you buy make sure it's 3000mhz or better, or just as close to it as you can get.

If you can't return the motherboard try sticking a fan over the top VRM that doesn't have a heatsink for peace of mind

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1 minute ago, iRileyx said:

Hmm, maybe his first post is a bit hard to read after all xD 

 

So you dont actually have the RAM to install yet?

 

That'll be why you can't boot. You need RAM to boot.

Yes you do need ram to boot the question was is there any way at all to tell without waiting for the ram first 2 no not my first post im worried since i finally pulled the trigger on this computer and its quite a bit of money from my stand point

 

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Just now, Fez760 said:

Yes you do need ram to boot the question was is there any way at all to tell without waiting for the ram first 2 no not my first post im worried since i finally pulled the trigger on this computer and its quite a bit of money from my stand point

 

No, you need ram to boot, and you need to be able to boot to get into bios, if you can't boot you can't check what BIOS is on it.


On the box there may be a manufacturing date, could compare that to BIOS releases to see if it was manufactured when an updated BIOS was brought out or not, but that's about it.

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2 minutes ago, Fez760 said:

Yes you do need ram to boot the question was is there any way at all to tell without waiting for the ram first 2 no not my first post im worried since i finally pulled the trigger on this computer and its quite a bit of money from my stand point

 

Did you already order the RAM or were you planning to buy it much later? Because it's a bad idea to buy a PC in pieces.

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2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Did you already order the RAM or were you planning to buy it much later? Because it's a bad idea to buy a PC in pieces.

Oh you better believe i bought it in pieces just couldn't wait and now im paying the real price next buy was ironically enough the RAM

 

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10 minutes ago, Fez760 said:

Oh you better believe i bought it in pieces just couldn't wait and now im paying the real price next buy was ironically enough the RAM

 

Wait are you actually in the US? if so why did you buy that motherboard? you should just return it and buy the new board with the RAM in one order just in case there's issues with it

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There 2 option for Bios update

 

Go to a computer repair shop and ask it they can do it , You need first generation CPU  to get the right Bios.

 

Go to AMD web site and fill form for a kit with first generation CPU. From what I have read , you need to return it , but shipping should be free.

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I have gone through this entire thread from top to bottom...3 times...and I still cannot determine if there actual RAM available/installed.

The computer won't properly POST if you don't have any RAM installed.

 

 

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1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

I have gone through this entire thread from top to bottom...3 times...and I still cannot determine if there actual RAM available/installed.

The computer won't properly POST if you don't have any RAM installed.

 

 

There is no RAM, this thread is pointless.

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10 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

There is no RAM, this thread is pointless.

the problem has been taken care of and the last 4 people saying ram is needed is the same as saying you need a power supply to turn the thing on im aware of the problem lets try one more time IS THERE a possible way to check the bios WITHOUT having the ram YET. it is not can you run a computer wihtout ram or that you need ram to get into the bios

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