Ryzen 7 2700X Temperatures

[NelizMastr]

Ever since I got my 2700X I felt something was off with the temperatures, and this was cemented even further since I got a Corsair H115i which is capable of

keeping much more power hungry CPUs at bay. No such luck with my 2700X it appears.

 

Some history:

 

I bought my 2700X on release day, I used a BeQuiet Pure Rock cooler at the time as a carry-over from my previous 65W R7 1700 part that I ran at 3.7GHz (yeah, don't even go there :D), which resulted in a max temp of 70 on that chip.

With the 2700X at stock, I noticed high 80s at stock settings, no OC applied (reset CMOS when I installed the CPU), and a whopping 1.5v being pulled when it tried to XFR to 4.1-4.2GHz. The Pure Rock

couldn't handle that at all, so I locked the chip to 3.8GHz all core, boost technologies turned off.

I decided to get a beefier air cooler to alleviate this problem and go for a 4GHz overclock, so I got a $50+ replacement, the Gelid Phantom Black with a much higher TDP rating and more powerful fans. The

4GHz OC was achievable, still with mid 80s as a result, at 1.25v. Still thought that was a bit weird, for a cooler rated for 200W. 

 

Fast forward a few months, and I became fed up with this temperamental thing, and went balls to the wall for a Corsair H115i with basically no temp difference at all compared to the Gelid. Once I start a heavy

load such as a number of back-to-back Cinebench runs, temps immediately shoot up to the mid 70s and a minute later mid 80s once again. I'm at a loss. When a 280mm rad with a push-pull config can't bloody

cool a 105W CPU with a light overclock, I don't know what will.

 

Configuration details:

 

My case is a Define R5, the radiator is front mounted with 2 (included) corsair 140mm fans in the front and 2 fractal fans (that came with the case) mounted to the back. I can feel a steady flow of cool air through the case.

The board is a MSI X370 Gaming Plus, VRM temps are well in check when stress testing. GPU is a 1070Ti Founders card, not really part of the equation.

Room temperature differs but let's say around 20-24 degrees.

 

Troubleshooting steps done:

 

- Different fans on the rad

- Made sure the pump was running at 100%

- Reapplied thermal paste (AS5)

- Reapplied the AM4 bracket and made sure the thumbscrews were tight.

 

At this point I'm at a loss. I love the raw power of the 2700X for sure as it crunches video like a madman, but damnit it can't keep quiet with temps like this. When I see reviewers with the AMD Wraith Prism achieve better speeds and temps than my H115i I really don't see any other conclusion that my CPU is a dud. Any idea what to do next? Should I just RMA the damn thing? I'd pick up a R5 2600 for the meantime I guess as I can't exactly go without my rig for a week or two.

 

 

[Cereal5]

4GHz @ 1.25v isn't really a dud. The temps are though... Like my 5820K. It has decent voltages but is just hot. When was the last time you update your MoBo BIOS? The X370 boards are made for the first gen Ryzen CPUs and without a BIOS update there can be compatibility issues. Not sure to what extent, cause I've never matched a refresh CPU with an old board

[homeap5]

Do you check other programs like CoreTemp?

Ryzen has temperature offsets and some programs (or even bioses) reports temperature higher by 20 degree. So you must basically subtract 20 from temperature you see. Or use program that reports it good.

 

Use Ryzen Master for read temperature.

[NelizMastr]

3 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

4GHz @ 1.25v isn't really a dud. The temps are though... Like my 5820K. It has decent voltages but is just hot. When was the last time you update your MoBo BIOS? The X370 boards are made for the first gen Ryzen CPUs and without a BIOS update there can be compatibility issues. Not sure to what extent, cause I've never matched a refresh CPU with an old board

My BIOS is up to date, I think the latest version came out in late july 2018. 

 

3 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Ryzen has temperature offsets and some programs (or even bioses) reports temperature higher by 20 degree. So you must basically subtract 20 from temperature you see. Or use program that reports it good.

I've checked Aida64, Hwmonitor and Ryzen Master. All paint the same picture. And I believe them, as the fans do ramp up rapidly under extended load. If I OC to 4.2 at 1.325v by the way, it hits TjMax in less than 30 seconds.

[homeap5]

Well, and I've check that 2700x has only 10 degree difference (offset), so your temperatures are high anyway, offset or not.

[Cereal5]

I don't know what to tell you other than it's a 16 thread CPU, turn it down......? I'd think an H155i would have no problem with at least a mild OC though.

[NelizMastr]

4 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

I don't know what to tell you other than it's a 16 thread CPU, turn it down......? I'd think an H155i would have no problem with at least a mild OC though.

The 1800X doesn't have this issue, and the 2700X is basically a die shrunk 1800X, so I think it's safe to say it's not a cooler issue.

[Yankee delta]

i've got an celcius 360 from fractal desing on it and same prob here. gues its just a hothead xp

[NelizMastr]

6 minutes ago, Yankee delta said:

i've got an celcius 360 from fractal desing on it and same prob here. gues its just a hothead xp

So yours also spikes immediately into the 70s when applying an all core load? If so, then damn, this thing is uncoolable, lol.

[Salacious B Crum]

52 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

So yours also spikes immediately into the 70s when applying an all core load? If so, then damn, this thing is uncoolable, lol.

For shits and giggles post what Ryzen master shows as load temps

[NelizMastr]

8 minutes ago, mrbilky said:

For shits and giggles post what Ryzen master shows as load temps

I'm not at my PC during the day, but I can give it a whirl tonight. It's honestly driving me up the wall enough to just downgrade to a 2600 or 2700 at this point, lol.

[porina]

Those temps for clocks/voltages do sound a bit off. My 2600 does 4.2 all cores at 1.35v set, with stress temps into the high 70's with a Noctua D9L, so not a very large heatsink.

[NelizMastr]

8 minutes ago, porina said:

Those temps for clocks/voltages do sound a bit off. My 2600 does 4.2 all cores at 1.35v set, with stress temps into the high 70's with a Noctua D9L, so not a very large heatsink.

That sounds more in line with my expectations on my 2700X at a similar clock and voltage, but this thing hits tjmax at 1.325v on a 115i. Doesn't compute.

[NelizMastr]

19 hours ago, mrbilky said:

For shits and giggles post what Ryzen master shows as load temps

With an AIDA64 stress test running, temps jump between 75 and 86 degrees C. 3 seconds after starting the test the temps jump from 28 to 70c.

[Yankee delta]

Jup and in the 37+- at idle so yeah I stop worring ive got an old overclocked alienware laptop when tru game the thing was a roomheater aal components 90+- but still does the job no problem so I stopted worrying

[Salacious B Crum]

5 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

With an AIDA64 stress test running, temps jump between 75 and 86 degrees C. 3 seconds after starting the test the temps jump from 28 to 70c.

I understand but Ryzen master is their official software and many others including AIDA64 are offset, I know this as all my rigs are AMD and show the offset

[NelizMastr]

1 hour ago, mrbilky said:

I understand but Ryzen master is their official software and many others including AIDA64 are offset, I know this as all my rigs are AMD and show the offset

The temps were taken from Ryzen Master btw.

[Salacious B Crum]

2 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

The temps were taken from Ryzen Master btw.

Oh I thought you got those from AIDA64 well I'm out of ideas then other than ruling out a cooling issue i.e. new TIM application or changing coolers

[NelizMastr]

2 hours ago, mrbilky said:

Oh I thought you got those from AIDA64 well I'm out of ideas then other than ruling out a cooling issue i.e. new TIM application or changing coolers

Thanks for the suggestion

 

Sadly a cooler change or new tim won't do the trick. When a midrange aircooler and a considerably higher end AIO give me the same temps, I guess I have to accept this chip likes getting hot.

 

I changed out the included corsair fans this morning with Noctua Redux NF-A14 and those seem to do an ever so slightly better job. Mid to high 70s now.

[spider623]

i know that this is old but i have the exact issue, even went ahead and changed case, i have the silent loop 240 and i was getting only 1 degree difference from the stock cooler, but with the aio the temps were not going down if they stayed at 85 from prime95 just for the kick of it i removed it and went back to stock, removed oc, set all to default and only used the xmp and virtualizations options from the bios, now i get a bit better clock that with aio, temps go down and i get rgb.

 

2700x seems to just be a hot chip when paired with gigabyte boards, i accepted that, my only issue is that i get the same damn temp(minus not going down) from the damn wright prism(with more noise but it's silent when the fan goes to the 3000 rpm).

 

my current setup with meshify C, 4 intake fans, 1 outtake and the prism,  idle is around 40 but i do use wallpaper engine and other background programs so the cpu is never idle or bellow 4GHz so they are normal, max temp with wrath is 79 but cools much faster back to 40, while gaming 60-68 that is the same i was getting with the aio, all fans are rated 2000 rpm or more in the case of the top fans. 

 

i was about to change boards btw just in case it was a board issue but since you had the same issue with an msi it's definitely a cpu issue.

 

p.s. both test with 11w paste.