Brand new GTX 1080ti or RTX 2080??

[Justforcause]

Hey all,

 

I am between these two cards. People say to get used GTX 1080ti for half the price of RTX 2080 but where I live I cannot get this offer and also would not buy used GPU.

I run 2560 x 1440 at 144hz screen.

So now I want to get your advice on whether to get a brand new GTX 1080ti or go for RTX 2080. The price difference is roughly $136 - $180 for example MSI RTX 2080 VENTUS 8GB is $136 more than 1080ti. 

In tests RTX is ~8% faster at 1440p which I assume is negligible. So is the price increase really worth it? To get the latest tech even though I cannot use any of the new features and who knows how they turn out to be useleful in the future.

 

Thnaks all for your input.

[schwellmo92]

I don't know where you got the 8% figure from, it's only 1% faster. I would get the 1080 ti personally, it has more VRAM (11GB vs 8GB), performs the same and is cheaper, but I would save even more money by buying second hand, if that's not an option for you buying new is still the better choice in my opinion.

 

[GamerDude]

The benchmark posted bove had me scratching my head, according to that, BF1 show the RTX2080 losing to the GTX1080 Ti (IF I'm readin' it right)....but guru3d had run the benchmark at 1440P and 4K, and the result is different.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_rtx_2080_gamerock_premium_review,14.html

 

I've been a member of guru3d for a while now, and I trust HH's reviews more than other sites. My opinion based on the review done by guru3d is that, IF the difference in price between a new GTX1080Ti and an RTX 2080 is not that significant, or that the difference in price is manageable to the buyer, then why not get the latter. Better optimizations and support for future games. Knowing nVidia, they'd prolly focus more on RTX optimizations and less on the GTX (NOT saying they're gonna gimp the GTX cards, but I'd not put it pass them). Buuuuut, if OP can score a used GTX1080 Ti for much less, then why the heck not?!

[Justforcause]

As I said I cannot get good deal on 1080Ti. Is either brand new 1080 ti OR brand new 2080.

[Shimejii]

Where exactly do you live? Somewhere in Asia or EU where you cant get used parts? Honestly 1080ti still should be cheaper, and perform slightly better but 2080 is newer slightly. 

[Shally]

4 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

perform slightly better but 2080 is newer slightly. 

The 1080ti does not perform better in most tasks, especially in higher resolutions. He has 1440p 144hz, and if the prices are that similar as he says, the RTX 2080 for him specifically is a no brainer
EDIT: Also, look at the benchmarks above, the 1080ti doesn't even get him the 144fps for his 144hz monitor at 1440p. What a waste that would be

[Shally]

43 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

The benchmark posted bove had me scratching my head,

I agree, why not just do difference in fps? 

[Justforcause]

26 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Where exactly do you live? Somewhere in Asia or EU where you cant get used parts? Honestly 1080ti still should be cheaper, and perform slightly better but 2080 is newer slightly. 

I live in the EU - Czech Republic. I mean I can get used 1080Ti but the prices are not all that worth it for being used and who knows in what condition. I would rather prefer retail with all the benefits of 14 day return and full waranty.

[Shimejii]

26 minutes ago, KendoSapion said:

The 1080ti does not perform better in most tasks, especially in higher resolutions. He has 1440p 144hz, and if the prices are that similar as he says, the RTX 2080 for him specifically is a no brainer
EDIT: Also, look at the benchmarks above, the 1080ti doesn't even get him the 144fps for his 144hz monitor at 1440p. What a waste that would be

that 100% depends on the settings used and who is doing the tests, cpu and such. My 980TI gets 100+ FPS Easily at 1440p in most titles. 1080ti is more then double my 980ti in performance usually, so i can easily expect those numbers to get bumped past 144 fps. High/max settings generally make 0 sense or difference, i prefer 100+ fps over little eye candy benefits

[GamerDude]

32 minutes ago, KendoSapion said:

I agree, why not just do difference in fps? 

No, I get that it was basically relative performance of the RTX 2080 vs GTX1080 Ti, the graph showed that for BF1, the RTX 2080 loses to the GTX 1080 Ti by 1% (again, if I'm reading it right), but the guru3d review shows the opposite, that the RTX2080 beats the GTX1080 Ti by a sizable margin (>10%). Again, as I'd stated, I trust guru3d reviews more than some random benchmark from somewhere else, they also state Ultra Quality DX12.

 

It just occurred to me that BF1 was run in DX11 mode in Schwellmo92's post, while the guru3d's review, it was run in DX12. That explains the difference because Pascal isn't that good at DX12 while the new Turing  cards are better at it (or have full DX12 support).....heard that Pascal doesn't quite fully support DX12, hence the weaker performance.

[CTR640]

RTX2080 if you want to use ray tracing, which craps on performance so 1080p30? If not using ray tracing, 1080Ti.

However, used 1080Ti for almost the prices of new 1080Ti is bullshit, so 2080 it is. I don't trust sellers saying they never mined using 1080Ti.

 

Or, if you can wait, wait for the 1080Ti to be cheaper.

[Zandvliet]

I'm in the same position you're in and I am getting a 2080. In my opinion it's worth the price difference to get a new gen GPU, even though performance is similar. I believe future driver updates will help improve the performance somewhat (prob not much though). I just do not get spending 700> on an older generation GPU.You might as well spend 100 more and get the latest.

[SolarNova]

Im in a similar position.

Difference is iv decided not to buy either card.

 

The problem is, the 2080 is too expensive over the 1080ti.

The used 1080ti's are selling for only £80-£100 less than a brand new retail card, which isnt worth it.

The retail cards cost around £600.... I set a budget of £1000 for 2 cards + waterblocks. So i cant go retail.

 

I was expecting used cards to drop to around £350-£400, but becouse the performance difference is non extient between the 2080 and 1080ti ..the prices havnt droped.. soo ...im not upgrading this generation

[wasab]

wait for AMD!!!! unless you just want the top performance instead of value.