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1 minute ago, Kjhanjee said:

Sure will do. Also, if it is okay with you, I'll post a few screens from the game as well, just to show in what state is it running.

graphs of monitoring software will be more helpful.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, asus killer said:

why don't you monitor GPU usage in game. You'll have all your answers.

I tried using the afterburner screen overlay but for aome reason it's not showing up. So I just use the steam overlay for FPS, still, as I belive the GPU usage is maxed out.

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Just now, Kjhanjee said:

I tried using the afterburner screen overlay but for aome reason it's not showing up. So I just use the steam overlay for FPS, still, as I belive the GPU usage is maxed out.

Afterburner should show graphs underneath it's UI. Start afterburner, play the game for a while, then screenshot the graph.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

graphs of monitoring software will be more helpful.

Can you recommed any that can work with the game or shall I just use a logging software to keep the performance logs of the hardwarw?

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1 minute ago, Kjhanjee said:

Can you recommed any that can work with the game or shall I just use a logging software to keep the performance logs of the hardwarw?

Afterburner will do. Just double click the graph at the bottom of it and expand it's size. Like this

eD2GdsZ.png

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Afterburner will do. Just double click the graph at the bottom of it and expand it's size. Like this

eD2GdsZ.png

Great and Thanks. Will be dropping the screens tomorrow.

 

Thanks a lot everyone for the info.

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20 minutes ago, Kjhanjee said:

I agree but 1050ti is not delivering good performance on 1080. I can hardly play PUBG at lowest settings at 60FPS and have consistent frame drops. Also, I am planning on getting a gtx 1080ti mini(hoping a price drop after the rtx cards flood the market) so even with the performance drop, I guess, it should be far better than the 1050ti. That's my POV though.

PUBG is just a crap game with crap optimization. its actually heavily dependent on the cpu as well. I wouldn't be surprised if  your cpu was the culprit. 

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

PUBG is just a crap game with crap optimization. its actually heavily dependent on the cpu as well. I wouldn't be surprised if  your cpu was the culprit. 

still the OP is not the only one i've seen ready to drop a lot of cash just to play it. I recently played Forza Horizon 4 demo and the level of optimization blew me away. PUBG is crap at that level for sure.

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Just now, Brooksie359 said:

PUBG is just a crap game with crap optimization. its actually heavily dependent on the cpu as well. I wouldn't be surprised if  your cpu was the culprit. 

CPU is i7 7700hq, I doubt on that part. Ram could be; GPU is, as per my understanding. I'll get the logs in soon. Though, some upgrade wouldn't hurt as I don't use this laptop anywhere other than my home and that too only for gaming. So I question myself, why not make it a desktop itself.

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1 minute ago, asus killer said:

still the OP is not the only one i've seen ready to drop a lot of cash just to play it. I recently played Forza Horizon 4 demo and the level of optimization blew me away. PUBG is crap at that level for sure.

I wouldn't disagree on PUBG being crappy. However, I am also planning on getting black ops 4 soon. If that also lags, it'll break my heart.

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1 minute ago, asus killer said:

still the OP is not the only one i've seen ready to drop a lot of cash just to play it. I recently played Forza Horizon 4 demo and the level of optimization blew me away. PUBG is crap at that level for sure.

yeah its just sad because many people fail to realize that the game is just hard to run for no good reason other than laziness on the game developers side. I mean the mobile version is so much better in terms of optimization that they should really just have them remake the pc version. also I know may people with very good pcs that cant play the game with stable fps just because the game simply cant run with stable fps in general. 

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3 minutes ago, Kjhanjee said:

CPU is i7 7700hq, I doubt on that part. Ram could be; GPU is, as per my understanding. I'll get the logs in soon. Though, some upgrade wouldn't hurt as I don't use this laptop anywhere other than my home and that too only for gaming. So I question myself, why not make it a desktop itself.

the i7 7700hq is not immune to being a bottleneck especially when it comes to PUBG. again the game just run bad on basically all hardware. I know people with better cpus that had a cpu bottleneck in that game causing fps dips below 60 quite often.

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2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

yeah its just sad because many people fail to realize that the game is just hard to run for no good reason other than laziness on the game developers side. I mean the mobile version is so much better in terms of optimization that they should really just have them remake the pc version. also I know may people with very good pcs that cant play the game with stable fps just because the game simply cant run with stable fps in general. 

Agreed there. I think one reason behind that is the nearness to reality or perfection desired by the devs that shoots unnecessary computations on the GPU and the CPU, which inturn leads to higher memory usage to keep the data ready for further computations.

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

the i7 7700hq is not immune to being a bottleneck especially when it comes to PUBG. again the game just run bad on basically all hardware. I know people with better cpus that had a cpu bottleneck in that game causing fps dips below 60 quite often.

You are making me think, I might never get more than 60 FPS on this game ever. :(

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Just now, Kjhanjee said:

You are making me think, I might never get more than 60 FPS on this game ever. :(

Temps are another thing. If there's no real cooling potential, your CPU will slow down.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Temps are another thing. If there's no real cooling potential, your CPU will slow down.

temps usually fall between 70-80°c, and that's normal while gaming, I hope.

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1 minute ago, Kjhanjee said:

You are making me think, I might never get more than 60 FPS on this game ever. :(

unfortunately that is a real possibility. I would honestly recommend find a better game to play.

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S.C.U.M. really put a hurting on my

1 minute ago, Kjhanjee said:

You are making me think, I might never get more than 60 FPS on this game ever. :(

4 cores 8 threads in a HEAVILY CPU and GPU bound game is likely the culprit.

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2 minutes ago, Kjhanjee said:

temps usually fall between 70-80°c, and that's normal while gaming, I hope.

The CPU might downclock around 80 so that it stays there.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, Brooksie359 said:

unfortunately that is a real possibility. I would honestly recommend find a better game to play.

I don't want to go back to CS GO or other Team deathmatch FPS games. I tried ROE but it was in a even worse state. BO4 or Battlefield 5 are my only hopes now.

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I'll try the egpu method with RAM upgrade once. If that doesn't work, I'll sell off the laptop and get the remaining parts and build my own rig.

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10 hours ago, Kjhanjee said:

I'll try the egpu method with RAM upgrade once. If that doesn't work, I'll sell off the laptop and get the remaining parts and build my own rig.

dude, don't theorize this, don't assume. It's really easy to be sure what the problem is, then you can decide how to tackle it.

Like suggested use Afterburner to see the graphs of cpu/gpu utilization and find out what is your problem.

 

Also, does that monitor have more than 60hz?

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19 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Stuttering can be caused by a lot, ranging from slow ram to even an inadequate CPU. You could see what task manager says if you want to be sure.

PUBG is ass. I thought this happens to everyone to some degree.

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