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So I just went ahead and bought a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro and preordered an i9-9900k because gf's moving in for a bit and I'm letting her use my Z270 i7-7700k PC so I needed something for myself. Probably could have gone with a 2600X or something, it would have allowed me to sell with a smaller "loss" in the event that Zen2 is great and to upgrade. However, I went all out and now I'm a bit annoyed with the timing of all of this because the more I look into it the more it seems to me like Intel's 9th gen is an overpriced mess leading with a soon-to-be obsolete 14nm process, and when Zen2 shows up, it'll just put my fancy premium i9 CPU to shame at 2/3 of the price. At least I'll have that fancy box...

 

Should I feel bad about my purchase?

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Salut voisin :D

 

But yeah of course it's nice to indulge sometimes, yet at the same time I'll feel like I made a dumb purchase if Zen2 absolutely demolishes it, and some predictions go in that direction. Kinda hope that the 9900k will remain competitive for a little bit but the 14nm process might limit it.

 

As for building with my girlfriend, unfortunately the thing 90% built already, just needs the motherboard and CPU to get here :P

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16 minutes ago, Bynming said:

Should I feel bad about my purchase?

Not just gonna up and shame you but like

 

well actually I am

 

Always feel bad about preordering. It lets companies get away with really anti-consumer practices like rushed, unfinished products and bad performance.

 

Don't take it personally, just never preorder is all

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

Not just gonna up and shame you but like

 

well actually I am

 

Always feel bad about preordering. It lets companies get away with really anti-consumer practices like rushed, unfinished products and bad performance.

 

Don't take it personally, just never preorder is all

I don't preorder games for those reasons, but my reason to preorder hardware though is that I'm going to need this thing when it's available and supply is low. Worst case scenario if performance numbers are low I'll cancel my preorder or return the thing.

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grats, jw, which mobo did u pick

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll evga non-3090 tie ftw3 1905 0.8v 65C 270w (double fps of 1080ti) ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll all nf12/14 fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll x27 ll PA272w

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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Just now, xg32 said:

grats, jw, which mobo did u pick

Gigabyte Aorus Pro, and I paid the extra $10 for the one with Wifi in the off chance that that could come in handy

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@Bynming Bah, don't feel bad.  And I doubt Zen2 is gonna hit 5GHz even at 7nm so there's that.  

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6 minutes ago, Bynming said:

I don't preorder games for those reasons, but my reason to preorder hardware though is that I'm going to need this thing when it's available and supply is low. Worst case scenario if performance numbers are low I'll cancel my preorder or return the thing.

If that works in general that's fine, but I think it's still a bad practice

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus thread, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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4 minutes ago, Bynming said:

Gigabyte Aorus Pro, and I paid the extra $10 for the one with Wifi in the off chance that that could come in handy

mmm you like you some hardline too eh?

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3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

If that works in general that's fine, but I think it's still a bad practice

I speed on highways too and shit

 

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

mmm you like you some hardline too eh?

I'm not sure what that means ?

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38 minutes ago, Bynming said:

Should I feel bad about my purchase? 

Yes. At least in the US for the price of the 9900K you can get an R7 1700 + B450 board + 16GBs of DDR4

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Just now, Streetguru said:

Yes. At least in the US for the price of the 9900K you can get an R7 1700 + B450 board + 16GBs of DDR4

Yeah but the R7 1700 has meme single core performance

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Just now, Bynming said:

Yeah but the R7 1700 has meme single core performance

Only about 20-25% slower max potential games, Ryzen 2000 more 15-20%. Which you're unlikely to notice depending on your resolution/GPU

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Only about 20-25% slower max potential games, Ryzen 2000 more 15-20%. Which you're unlikely to notice depending on your resolution/GPU

Currently 1440p 165hz with a 1080ti and I'll probably upgrade when GPUs get good (aka not RTX first gen trash)

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1 minute ago, Bynming said:

Currently 1440p 165hz with a 1080ti and I'll probably upgrade when GPUs get good (aka not RTX first gen trash)

Then ya the gap is likely a little closer, "max" should be changed to average* for performance, my bad.

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I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Alexsolo said:

Hey fellow Montrealer, you shouldn't feel bad at all! (as long as you invite me over to test out the CPU haha)

But seriously if you had the extra money and the means to pay for it, why not indulge? You'll have a lot of fun building the new rig and playing with the CPU you'll see a nice performance boost. 

Maybe use the occasion to build the system with your GF?

I feel as if Intel was holding this guy hostage as he typed this...

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Ima jump in on the city bandwagon.

But really, imo you should have waited for benchmarks.
(and if lowkey you regret your decision I'm not to far if ya wanna trade xD)

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2 minutes ago, givingtnt said:

Ima jump in on the city bandwagon.

But really, imo you should have waited for benchmarks.
(and if lowkey you regret your decision I'm not to far if ya wanna trade xD)

From the little I've seen of the leaked benchmarks it seems to be sufficient but certainly it has not been my most enlightened decision

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9 minutes ago, Bynming said:

From the little I've seen of the leaked benchmarks it seems to be sufficient but certainly it has not been my most enlightened decision

aight this is ridiculous imo, u can spend your money how you want, it is the fastest consumer cpu by far, don't feel bad about it, just know that intel used the same strategy as nvidia and the 9900k still sold out, i know multiple people who ordered a 9700k for single core performance, nothing wrong with your decision, the 9700/9900k will be the fastest gaming cpu for the next 14months, be happy about it. Don't let others discourage you for a shiny new build.

 

From a cost standpoint the 2700x is 320usd, the 9900k is faster in every way, so the worst thing you did was overpay just a little :)

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll evga non-3090 tie ftw3 1905 0.8v 65C 270w (double fps of 1080ti) ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll all nf12/14 fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll x27 ll PA272w

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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12 minutes ago, xg32 said:

aight this is ridiculous imo, u can spend your money how you want, it is the fastest consumer cpu by far, don't feel bad about it, just know that intel used the same strategy as nvidia and the 9900k still sold out, i know multiple people who ordered a 9700k for single core performance, nothing wrong with your decision, the 9700/9900k will be the fastest gaming cpu for the next 14months, be happy about it. Don't let others discourage you for a shiny new build.

 

From a cost standpoint the 2700x is 320usd, the 9900k is faster in every way, so the worst thing you did was overpay just a little :)

Thank you papi

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1 hour ago, Bynming said:

So I just went ahead and bought a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro and preordered an i9-9900k because gf's moving in for a bit and I'm letting her use my Z270 i7-7700k PC so I needed something for myself. Probably could have gone with a 2600X or something, it would have allowed me to sell with a smaller "loss" in the event that Zen2 is great and to upgrade. However, I went all out and now I'm a bit annoyed with the timing of all of this because the more I look into it the more it seems to me like Intel's 9th gen is an overpriced mess leading with a soon-to-be obsolete 14nm process, and when Zen2 shows up, it'll just put my fancy premium i9 CPU to shame at 2/3 of the price. At least I'll have that fancy box...

 

Should I feel bad about my purchase?

 

If it's purely for gaming, it's the best choice for now. Why you feel bad being the best? 

 

In case you want to sell it in the future, Intel tradition resell price is good too.

 

AMD is for the budget, perf/price oriented users. Don't believe that Zen 2 will best this one in gaming.  It never happened in the last 10 years.

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8 minutes ago, d3adc3II said:

 

If it's purely for gaming, it's the best choice for now. Why you feel bad being the best? 

 

In case you want to sell it in the future, Intel tradition resell price is good too.

 

AMD is for the budget, perf/price oriented users. Don't believe that Zen 2 will best this one in gaming.  It never happened in the last 10 years.

It's mainly for gaming but also I want to stream with it and I like for it to be snappy when I edit videos. I also enjoy the massive epeen. Zen2 might be impressive af though, 7nm, and the way Ryzen's been doing, I wouldn't be surprised if it did well. Anyhow I'll cross my fingers, one way or the other it's going to be a damn good CPU. 

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Intel commissioned some slimey incredibly biased performance numbers.. this sux

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