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Best Mid-Range card for 144Hz 1080p (580 v 1060)

BasedGod
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I've had a GTX 760 for a while now, back when it was the best bang for buck GPU on the market. Finally, yesterday it died after years of torture. So I haven't been into the PC components market for a while, and need some help picking a new GPU. Noticed that higher end cards are ridiculously priced right now cuz of those miners, and trying to buy like a 970 is out of the question. So I've been looking at the 1060 vs the 580. Thoughts?

 

Playing at 1080 on a 144Hz monitor

i5 6600K @ Stock

Only buying new

Not really a discussion of price vs performance, because their price points are similar when buying new (between 580 and 1060)

Not looking for a overclocked out of box, higher end version of these cards, just looking for the best generic one.

~300 USD

 

Edit: Noticed that there's WAY more selection in aftermarket gpu's,  So if you guys have any suggestions for those stuff too that'd be great 

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1 minute ago, ubbe122 said:

I would say the rx 580.

any reasoning?

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I have a 1080p 144hz screen. It depends on what settings you want to play at. If you want ultra settings at 144 fps then buy a gtx 1080. But if you're willing to put the settings down a bit, I'm running a second-hand 1070 that I got for 300 euros and it runs perfectly. I would say at least get more than 3GB of video memory.

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6 minutes ago, Puntertje said:

I have a 1080p 144hz screen. It depends on what settings you want to play at. If you want ultra settings at 144 fps then buy a gtx 1080. But if you're willing to put the settings down a bit, I'm running a second-hand 1070 that I got for 300 euros and it runs perfectly. I would say at least get more than 3GB of video memory.

Should've specified, my bad. I'm looking in the sub 300 range. And Yeah, definitely more than 3GB.

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New: GTX 1060 or RX 580

 

Used: GTX 1070 or 980Ti

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Just now, bleedblue said:

New: GTX 1060 or RX 580

 

Used: GTX 1070 or 980Ti

Got it. I'm more asking comparisons between the 580 v the 1060

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1 minute ago, BasedGod said:

Got it. I'm more asking comparisons between the 580 v the 1060

They're about the same. 580 beats the 1060 in some games, mostly DX12 titles, while the 1060 wins in others. 1060 uses less power than the 580 out of the box tho.

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1 minute ago, bleedblue said:

They're about the same. 580 beats the 1060 in some games, mostly DX12 titles, while the 1060 wins in others. 1060 uses less power than the 580 out of the box tho.

With the 580 beating out the 1060 in DX12 games, would you say its more future proof?

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paid $300 for my used GTX 1080 you can also find used 1070s for $200

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38 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

So I've been looking at the 1060 vs the 580. Thoughts?

 

Playing at 1080 on a 144Hz monitor

 

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25 minutes ago, Spotty said:

 

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Totally understand. My Monitor model supports neither of these however.

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26 minutes ago, Spotty said:

 

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Pretty good graph here lol. guessing there's no difference. My monitor has no adaptive sync.

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51 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

Got it. I'm more asking comparisons between the 580 v the 1060

Buy the RX 580 8GB 

I bought a GTX1060 and returned it after experiencing color banding issue, this issue has been reported by multiple Nvidia GPU users since 2014 yet Nvidia hasn't done sh#t about it.

 

 

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Just now, maurice321go said:

Buy the RX 580 8GB 

I bought a GTX1060 and returned it after experiencing color banding issue, this issue has been reported by multiple Nvidia GPU users since 2014 yet Nvidia hasn't done sh#t about it.

What monitor are you running?

Acer GN246HL. 

I'm not familiar with the color banding issue. I've had my 760 since 2014 and never noticed a problem. I guess I wouldn't be able to notice since I've played with only nvidia gpu's. I'm more comfortable with nvidia I guess, and their software. Main reason I'm finding it hard to switch to AMD.

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6 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

Pretty good graph here lol. guessing there's no difference. My monitor has no adaptive sync.

The two cards are pretty similar. In some games the 1060 is better, in other games the 580 is better. Depends on the game and how its optimised.

 

Look through a few cards and find a few models from each that you like within your budget, then look at a few reviews for each card and make sure they have decent coolers that aren't too hot/loud. Then go with whichever one you can get for the best price. You're probably looking at $230-$300 for either RX 580 or 1060 new.

 

PCpartpicker.com might help you find prices on cards.

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5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

The two cards are pretty similar. In some games the 1060 is better, in other games the 580 is better. Depends on the game and how its optimised.

 

Look through a few cards and find a few models from each that you like within your budget, then look at a few reviews for each card and make sure they have decent coolers that aren't too hot/loud. Then go with whichever one you can get for the best price. You're probably looking at $230-$300 for either RX 580 or 1060 new.

 

PCpartpicker.com might help you find prices on cards.

Do you have any models you recommend. I'm gonna be buying through amazon mostly due to my history with their customer when I've had bad shipments or faulty devices (refunded my CPU when it arrived a day late, only a problem because I was going away for a few moths and needed the CPU that day for my build). I know I may find the better price on pcpartpicker, but i'm just more comfortable buying thru amazon.

 

Also, any thought son the matter of VRAM. Should I go with the 580 because games MAY increase VRAM usage in the future, or should I not consider the 2 gb difference a factor

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10 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

Acer GN246HL. 

I'm not familiar with the color banding issue. I've had my 760 since 2014 and never noticed a problem.

Color banding is essentially when the transition between different color shades is not smooth. most Nvidia users live with it thinking it's a normal behavior but this issue does not exist on AMD. Here are a few examples of color banding.IMG_20170208_181642.thumb.jpg.9ae298e1522f9fa0d945936fc01cf414.jpgrt71RiF.thumb.jpg.184afe81be9b047ed622841db6806917.jpg

 

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24 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

Do you have any models you recommend

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xH448d/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb-armor-mk2-oc-video-card-rx-580-armor-mk2-8g-oc
the 2gb VRAM difference doesn't make a difference at 1080p.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, maurice321go said:

The 2gb difference I'm only really considering for the future. Hoping to use the gpu for the next 4 years, like my old one. And I probbaly will upgrade my monitor before my gpu. Since I'm not looking to overclock, I'm looking for the best one @ Stock that has the best longevity basically.

Also I've seen reviews of the msi 580 not being the best per say, due to higher temps and louder fans. 

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46 minutes ago, BasedGod said:

Also I've seen reviews of the msi 580 not being the best per say, due to higher temps and louder fans

there are a lot of versions of RX 580 cards, that MSI MK2 is the much quieter updated version with much lower temps. 

Buy this one if you want a beefy and dead silent card but it's a little over $300.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9ZmxFT/asus-radeon-rx-580-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx580-o8g-gaming

 

most games don't use more than 4GB of VRAM, so no need to worry about running out of VRAM in future games.

 

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8 minutes ago, maurice321go said:

there are a lot of versions of RX 580 cards, that MSI MK2 is the much quieter updated version with much lower temps. 

Buy this one if you want a beefy and dead silent card but it's a little over $300.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9ZmxFT/asus-radeon-rx-580-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rx580-o8g-gaming

 

most games don't use more than 4GB of VRAM, so no need to worry about running out of VRAM in future games.

okay then, so i'm guessing the mk1 for msi was just a rebrand of their design for the 480, but the mk2 is completely new cooling?

as for 580's i've considered these three: 

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y46X4L9/?coliid=I7AOXPM5E4EO2&colid=U5DQ60XF0V&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-580-8G-OC/dp/B079NX4GCF/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1538990581&sr=8-5&keywords=580&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071QX74F9/?coliid=I17CJRNBPISRG5&colid=U5DQ60XF0V&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

would the sapphire be worth it?

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