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RX 580 possible bottleneck + FX 4350?

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12 minutes ago, Policedriver said:

Ok. now I have some ideas.

 

I thought an fx 8350 WOULD bottleneck an 8gb rx580, but apperently not!

 

However, I do want to occasionally do some CPU focused tasks (3d editing, video/photo editing, recording, streaming)

 

Now, I need to think of SPECIFIC cheap motherboards with either ryzen or i5 capability. Anyone know an EXACT combo that's relatively cheap (I can just buy some rgb strips/fans, rgb ram and motherboards are not necessary... (sorry Linus!!))

I just picked up a fx8350 with two different mobos a couple weeks ago for $50. I took my spare rx470 threw together a second system for upstairs to game on, or for a friend to use to game with me. I installed gta v, far cry 5, fortnite, wrecked:new car game, and two other bs games so it was ready. I first ran the cpu at stock settings, it handled all games a little better then I thaught, considering it's 6 yr old chip and a low end gpu now a days anyways. Gta with everything on high +it maintains a solid 60 fps with maxed settings.... But at 720p. I then over clocked it to 4.6 on the msi board, the north Bridge got redicuulously hot so I added a little 80mm fan and left the OC. The rx 470 I have, XFX stock core is 1256, I bumped this up to 1350 which was the highest core I could get on it ever and managed 10-15 fps around the board. The msi board ended up burning out so I went with the second mobo included, some gigabyte board and set the oc to 4.6 again. Anyways it can just about get a constant 60fps 1080p with over clocking both chips. But as this is a spare pc it got spare and left over paraiphials.... Meaning a 40" 720p TV as a screen and powers it nicely. So with you having a faster 580 and then with a over clock I'd say you'd be fine for 60fps 1080p very high plus in all games 

Just now, Policedriver said:

So currently, I HAVE  to upgrade cpu, its not just a software error.... I really hate bottlenecking now...

 

(just to confirm)

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Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

For the workloads he'll be doing 16GB is the minimum amount I'd recommend. 

ik.... but difference in price between 8gb and 16gb? it is DDR4...

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1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

For the workloads he'll be doing 16GB is the minimum amount I'd recommend. 

That's an arbitrary minimum. I could recommend threadtipper as the minimum but it means little, since 8GB should be a sizeable enough upgrade regardless.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, Policedriver said:

ik.... but difference in price between 8gb and 16gb? it is DDR4...

8GB, personally it's not enough for me anymore but if you think it's enough for you then go with what you think is best. 

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12 minutes ago, Policedriver said:

Ok. now I have some ideas.

 

I thought an fx 8350 WOULD bottleneck an 8gb rx580, but apperently not!

 

However, I do want to occasionally do some CPU focused tasks (3d editing, video/photo editing, recording, streaming)

 

Now, I need to think of SPECIFIC cheap motherboards with either ryzen or i5 capability. Anyone know an EXACT combo that's relatively cheap (I can just buy some rgb strips/fans, rgb ram and motherboards are not necessary... (sorry Linus!!))

I just picked up a fx8350 with two different mobos a couple weeks ago for $50. I took my spare rx470 threw together a second system for upstairs to game on, or for a friend to use to game with me. I installed gta v, far cry 5, fortnite, wrecked:new car game, and two other bs games so it was ready. I first ran the cpu at stock settings, it handled all games a little better then I thaught, considering it's 6 yr old chip and a low end gpu now a days anyways. Gta with everything on high +it maintains a solid 60 fps with maxed settings.... But at 720p. I then over clocked it to 4.6 on the msi board, the north Bridge got redicuulously hot so I added a little 80mm fan and left the OC. The rx 470 I have, XFX stock core is 1256, I bumped this up to 1350 which was the highest core I could get on it ever and managed 10-15 fps around the board. The msi board ended up burning out so I went with the second mobo included, some gigabyte board and set the oc to 4.6 again. Anyways it can just about get a constant 60fps 1080p with over clocking both chips. But as this is a spare pc it got spare and left over paraiphials.... Meaning a 40" 720p TV as a screen and powers it nicely. So with you having a faster 580 and then with a over clock I'd say you'd be fine for 60fps 1080p very high plus in all games 

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1 minute ago, O9B0666 said:

I just picked up a fx8350 with two different mobos a couple weeks ago for $50. I took my spare rx470 threw together a second system for upstairs to game on, or for a friend to use to game with me. I installed gta v, far cry 5, fortnite, wrecked:new car game, and two other bs games so it was ready. I first ran the cpu at stock settings, it handled all games a little better then I thaught, considering it's 6 yr old chip and a low end gpu now a days anyways. Gta with everything on high +it maintains a solid 60 fps with maxed settings.... But at 720p. I then over clocked it to 4.6 on the msi board, the north Bridge got redicuulously hot so I added a little 80mm fan and left the OC. The rx 470 I have, XFX stock core is 1256, I bumped this up to 1350 which was the highest core I could get on it ever and managed 10-15 fps around the board. The msi board ended up burning out so I went with the second mobo included, some gigabyte board and set the oc to 4.6 again. Anyways it can just about get a constant 60fps 1080p with over clocking both chips. But as this is a spare pc it got spare and left over paraiphials.... Meaning a 40" 720p TV as a screen and powers it nicely. So with you having a faster 580 and then with a over clock I'd say you'd be fine for 60fps 1080p very high plus in all games 

So you say I will be fine with my rx 580 and an fx8350?

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Also, my other xfx 470 when it was in my 8700k didn't manage anything more then what the fx gets.... As obviously the gpu is the weaker link.... But pc usage stays under 40 and gpu I believe around 55-65

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1 minute ago, Policedriver said:

So you say I will be fine with my rx 580 and an fx8350?

 

3 minutes ago, O9B0666 said:

I just picked up a fx8350 with two different mobos a couple weeks ago for $50. I took my spare rx470 threw together a second system for upstairs to game on, or for a friend to use to game with me. I installed gta v, far cry 5, fortnite, wrecked:new car game, and two other bs games so it was ready. I first ran the cpu at stock settings, it handled all games a little better then I thaught, considering it's 6 yr old chip and a low end gpu now a days anyways. Gta with everything on high +it maintains a solid 60 fps with maxed settings.... But at 720p. I then over clocked it to 4.6 on the msi board, the north Bridge got redicuulously hot so I added a little 80mm fan and left the OC. The rx 470 I have, XFX stock core is 1256, I bumped this up to 1350 which was the highest core I could get on it ever and managed 10-15 fps around the board. The msi board ended up burning out so I went with the second mobo included, some gigabyte board and set the oc to 4.6 again. Anyways it can just about get a constant 60fps 1080p with over clocking both chips. But as this is a spare pc it got spare and left over paraiphials.... Meaning a 40" 720p TV as a screen and powers it nicely. So with you having a faster 580 and then with a over clock I'd say you'd be fine for 60fps 1080p very high plus in all games 

Can you confirm this?

 

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Just now, Policedriver said:

So you say I will be fine with my rx 580 and an fx8350?

I'm running the next step weaker, as in a rx 470 4gb and I'm a graphics whore and I'm pleased with it. You'll be fine with 1080p 60fps, don't worry about it. Worse case tomorrow when I get home I will obs some gta v as it's pretty demanding, and show you the fps I get and it records at the same time as gaming just fine. 

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Just now, O9B0666 said:

I'm running the next step weaker, as in a rx 470 4gb and I'm a graphics whore and I'm pleased with it. You'll be fine with 1080p 60fps, don't worry about it. Worse case tomorrow when I get home I will obs some gta v as it's pretty demanding, and show you the fps I get and it records at the same time as gaming just fine. 

One minute, I'm still slightly confused. 1080p 60fps with fx8350?

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Thank you everyone for my first post! I know hope to find an fx 8350 for around £80 (average ebay as not many) 

 

Thank you so much!!!

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Honestly if you can afford something newer go for it, but I'd go big or go home if getting new I.e don't upgrade and just get a ryzen 2200, aim for a 2600, or Intel 8400 minimum. Why spend $99on a cpu(2200g) when like $50 more gets you a 2600. 

 

But if your just playing current titles, you'd be fine for awhile but obviously as games come out their more cpu hungry.... But that rx 580 wouldn't handle 1440p medium settings which would relieve some of the cpu stress, so that fx could hold you down for quite awhile if you switched to higher res. 

 

If you can get one used for $50 ish bucks grab it for sure. Catch one brand new on sale for $60-$75 jump on it, it's a great gaming chip and stays under 40c with a AIO on it. 

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6 minutes ago, Policedriver said:

One minute, I'm still slightly confused. 1080p 60fps with fx8350?

Yeah for sure with a rx 580

 

Shoot me a pm in 24 hours reminding me I'll get some video footage of my combo in some gta v 

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2 minutes ago, Policedriver said:

Thank you everyone for my first post! I know hope to find an fx 8350 for around £80 (average ebay as not many) 

 

Thank you so much!!!

Forget it, if all you have is £100 for an upgrade then you may as well save the £100 you have now and save up for a new platform upgrade.

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5 minutes ago, O9B0666 said:

it's a great gaming chip

Don't know about that mate, the FX 8350 is slower than a Pentium Gold G5600 2C/4T. 

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