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NH-C14S/Dark Rock TF on 8086K

aisle9
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My build is nearly complete, but the matter of cases and cooling remains. I decided a while back that I want to go with a wider case than my S340 Elite for the 8086K build. I'm also looking at going to a top-down cooler. That's partly because I want to get some air blowing across the VRMs, and mostly because I just think top-down coolers look better than big towers. The NH-C14S is, imo, the best option for that, with the Dark Rock TF a close second (clearance issues bug me with the TF).

 

Relative to the H5 Ultimate I have now, what kind of performance could I reasonably expect from the C14S? I'm having the same problem with C14S benchmarks that I did with Dark Rock TF benchmarks--they're all over the map. Some reviews say both are good, some say they're quiet but not great, and one just completely trashes the Dark Rock TF as just this side of a train wreck. Anyone out there using either of these coolers on an unlocked CPU?

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1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

 

Don't bother with a down ward facing cooler. Stick a fan over the VRM if it starts to get hot.

 

You're going to delid the 8086K right?

 

Just grab one of the Noctua Dual Towers or a massive Thermalright cooler.

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6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Don't bother with a down ward facing cooler. Stick a fan over the VRM if it starts to get hot.

 

You're going to delid the 8086K right?

 

Just grab one of the Noctua Dual Towers or a massive Thermalright cooler.

I wonder how you can put fans below those big CPU cooler heatsinks yet above the VRM heatsink?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

I wonder how you can put fans below those big CPU cooler heatsinks yet above the VRM heatsink?

by just shoving any old 92mm fan on it since it'll probably fit?

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9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Don't bother with a down ward facing cooler. Stick a fan over the VRM if it starts to get hot.

 

You're going to delid the 8086K right?

 

Just grab one of the Noctua Dual Towers or a massive Thermalright cooler.

No delid. I'm not after a massive overclock. 5GHz would be spectacular, but I've done so little research into it at this point that I have no idea what's realistic. A lot of it is just for aesthetics. The downdraft air over the VRMs on my AsRock Fatality K6 will be nice, but I really do just prefer the look of top-down coolers to that of huge towers. The flip side of that, of course, is that I need to look at a wider or cube case.

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2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

 

then there's no point in buying an 8086K if you aren't shooting for 5.3ghz.

 

Why not just wait for the i9 9900K if you already have a Ryzen system? At least it will be soldered.

Thermaltake makes the best more modern cube/horizonal cases.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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Just now, Streetguru said:

then there's no point in buying an 8086K if you aren't shooting for 5.3ghz.

 

Why not just wait for the i9 9900K if you already have a Ryzen system? At least it will be soldered.

Thermaltake makes the best more modern cube/horizonal cases.

Who says I'm buying it?

I enjoy buying junk and sinking more money than it's worth into it to make it less junk.

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1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

Who says I'm buying it?

Did you win it in some kind of giveaway?

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Just now, Streetguru said:

Did you win it in some kind of giveaway?

I did, in fact. You'd never know it because I'm actually keeping the damn thing instead of selling it off or trading it for a Threadripper.

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5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

by just shoving any old 92mm fan on it since it'll probably fit?

that's the problem, it doesnt fit above the VRM heatsink to the left of the CPU socket. Even if it does, it's so close to the bottom of the tower of fins, it doesnt get fresh air.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

I did, in fact. You'd never know it because I'm actually keeping the damn thing instead of selling it off or trading it for a Threadripper.

Then sell it and use the money for a soldered 8 core i9 9900K?

Or get it delidded and do real overclocking on it. Or delidding will just drop your noise by a lot.
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's the problem, it doesnt fit above the VRM heatsink to the left of the CPU socket. Even if it does, it's so close to the bottom of the tower of fins, it doesnt get fresh air.

That board probably doesn't even need active VRM cooling, especially without real overclocking.

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6/index.asp

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They should perform similar or slightly worse in the S340 Elite compared to the H5 Ultimate. 

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

They should perform similar or slightly worse in the S340 Elite compared to the H5 Ultimate. 

How about something like, for example, a Corsair Air 540? Would the added depth of that case favor the C14S/DRTF?

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2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

How about something like, for example, a Corsair Air 540? Would the added depth of that case favor the C14S/DRTF?

The added depth should help a bit but so does having fans in a system face the same direction. The 3 coolers perform similarly so it's hard to tell for sure which would perform better.

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