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30 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

 @JurrunioYeah Titanium/Gaming/Duke/Armor/Zotac AMP Extreme are available which is like $25-$30 less than 1080 and 1070ti all versions are differs like $10-$15 with each other.

1070ti Amp Extreme suck in the VRM department, so put this in the back seat with the Armor.

 

What gaming is this? Gigabyte Gaming or MSI Gaming?

 

I'll put it this way. In terms of goodness, MSI Duke > MSI Titanium = MSI Gaming (same card, different paint job) > Gigabyte Gaming > Armor = Amp Extreme

got a deal from our local computer shop gtx 1080 armor at $487 ( price reduction due to new rtx series). When rtx 2070 (non-founder edition) will be available at our country it will be priced at least $750+ (including tax and profit). So will it be wise decision to go for 1080? Or should I just save $101 buy rx580 8gb at $386 and buy rtx series GPU after few years later when prices comes down. 

 

Btw I want Play at 1080p resolution not more than that with decent FPS

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6 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

 

The armor cooler is terrible for a 1080

 

an RX 570/580 will be enough for 1080p gaming

 

maybe just shop for a used 980ti though?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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20 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

got a deal from our local computer shop gtx 1080 armor at $487 ( price reduction due to new rtx series). When rtx 2070 (non-founder edition) will be available at our country it will be priced at least $750+ (including tax and profit). So will it be wise decision to go for 1080? Or should I just save $101 buy rx580 8gb at $386 and buy rtx series GPU after few years later when prices comes down. 

 

Btw I want Play at 1080p resolution not more than that with decent FPS

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If you're playing at 1080p/60 Hz, get the 580 and a SSD.

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3 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

:o i saw in reviews that 1080 armor cooler is good.  Sadly, No 980ti available :( @Streetguru

At 100% fan speed it's probably functional

 

it's not as bad as the 1080ti here, but that kind of cooler only belongs on a 1050ti at most.

 

What's the pricing of an RX 570? Is it much cheaper than an RX 580?

Did you buy anything in that build yet?
 

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

 @Taf the Ghost okay! Thanks for the suggestion :)

For a lot of games, "Ultra" settings have functions that are really expensive & don't add much to visual quality. So "high" detail is normally the proper benchmarks to check. The RX 580 will do 1080p/60 Hz on an 8400 in pretty much everything that isn't an otherwise broken engine. (I.e. old single-thread games with way too many particles on screen.)

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5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

At 100% fan speed it's probably functional

 

it's not as bad as the 1080ti here, but that kind of cooler only belongs on a 1050ti at most.

 

What's the pricing of an RX 570? Is it much cheaper than an RX 580?

Did you buy anything in that build yet?
 

 

@Streetguru XFX 570 8gb is $60 less than Sapphire 580 8gb. Sapphire version is $20 less

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Just now, Captain Boomerang said:

@Streetguru XFX 570 8gb is $60 less than Sapphire 580 8gb. Sapphire version is $20 less

Just get the RX 570, it's not much slower than the 580 depending on the game, and still has 8GBs

Use the money saved on like a 1080p 144hz display for a better gaming experience rather than a more powerful GPU

 

if you haven't bought the monitor already.

 

and if you haven't bought the PC an R5 1600 or R5 1600 is likely a better value than the i5 8400 overall.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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Any 1070ti/1070 or even Vega 56 available?

 

I'd actually go for the MSI 1080 armor despite its flaws, provided that there are no 1070ti / Vega 56 at this price range or 1070 that cost just over $400. Due to heat problems I wont be running it like other 1080s, instead I'd undervolt and underclock it (to say 1700MHz) so it stays cooler at the cost of some performance. It will still wreck the RX 580 and beat the 1070 in that state, similar to a 1070ti running at stock frequencies (or maybe a tiny bit behind)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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43 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Any 1070ti/1070 or even Vega 56 available?

 

I'd actually go for the MSI 1080 armor despite its flaws, provided that there are no 1070ti / Vega 56 at this price range or 1070 that cost just over $400. Due to heat problems I wont be running it like other 1080s, instead I'd undervolt and underclock it (to say 1700MHz) so it stays cooler at the cost of some performance. It will still wreck the RX 580 and beat the 1070 in that state, similar to a 1070ti running at stock frequencies (or maybe a tiny bit behind)

 @JurrunioYeah Titanium/Gaming/Duke/Armor/Zotac AMP Extreme are available which is like $25-$30 less than 1080 and 1070ti all versions are differs like $10-$15 with each other.

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1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

Just get the RX 570, it's not much slower than the 580 depending on the game, and still has 8GBs

Use the money saved on like a 1080p 144hz display for a better gaming experience rather than a more powerful GPU

 

if you haven't bought the monitor already.

 

and if you haven't bought the PC an R5 1600 or R5 1600 is likely a better value than the i5 8400 overall.

@Streetguru Actually I was about  to ask your suggestion about buying Amd 1600 instead of i5 8400. And can i overclock it without buying new cpu cooler?

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3 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

@Streetguru Actually I was about  to ask your suggestion about buying Amd 1600 instead of i5 8400. And can i overclock it without buying new cpu cooler?

Can you overclock the R5 1600 with the stock cooler?

Kind of, the 2600 would be much more capable as it hits higher clocks at lower voltages.

3900mhz is likely doable

 

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Captain Boomerang said:

 @JurrunioYeah Titanium/Gaming/Duke/Armor/Zotac AMP Extreme are available which is like $25-$30 less than 1080 and 1070ti all versions are differs like $10-$15 with each other.

1070ti Amp Extreme suck in the VRM department, so put this in the back seat with the Armor.

 

What gaming is this? Gigabyte Gaming or MSI Gaming?

 

I'll put it this way. In terms of goodness, MSI Duke > MSI Titanium = MSI Gaming (same card, different paint job) > Gigabyte Gaming > Armor = Amp Extreme

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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