1440p, around 60fps WoW machine for brother

[Selven]

Building my brother a pc to play WoW on (he's been playing on a laptop from 8 years ago under 10 fps). He will be playing on a huge 4k capable TV, however with a budget around $750 I want to aim for 1440p. He will probably only play WoW or less demanding older games and no real fps target other than around 60 (WoW fps varies pretty wildly area to area) I've poked some other minds and have decided on an 8gb 580 over the 6gb 1060 because the extra vram will help the higher resolution. Wanted to hear if theres any important upgrades/downgrades I should make to get the cheapest pc to get around 60fps at 1440p in WoW, and to hear if the xfx, which i have no experience with, gpu is about as reliable as the 10 dollar more expensive msi 580 with a slightly slower out of box clock speed. Thanks for the input.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($116.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M S2P Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($58.01 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.01 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.60 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Rosewill - 700W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($47.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $684.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-17 23:59 EDT-0400

[STRESSMASTER]

don't bother with the 580 yet I thought I heard ATI would be releasing the 600 series soon. As for the power I doubt you need a 1000 series GTX a 750TI 4GB or 900 series would work just fine for everything but 4k gaming but should still do 4K streaming etc.

[STRESSMASTER]

BTW I have a 750TI OC and can get 90+ fps in wow

[Herman Mcpootis]

get a CX450 instead of that PSU, i'd get the H18 TG for a few bucks more.

[Selven]

At 1440p?

[boey]

2 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

don't bother with the 580 yet I thought I heard ATI would be releasing the 600 series soon. As for the power I doubt you need a 1000 series GTX a 750TI 4GB or 900 series would work just fine for everything but 4k gaming but should still do 4K streaming etc.

The new 2000 series cards seem promising though. 2060 leaked to have almost similar firestrike score as 1080 and 2080 is leaked to perform better than titan v. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H18 Tempered Glass MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($45.46 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 00:05 EDT-0400

[STRESSMASTER]

2 minutes ago, Selven said:

At 1440p?

yes at 1440 on a g-sync 120Hz monitor 

[Selven]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

get a CX450 instead of that PSU, i'd get the H18 TG for a few bucks more.

cx450 $2 more than the 700? and he likes the look of the h17 more, it's not a showpiece. Thank you though, is corsair a much more reliable brand I've always used evga psu's.

[STRESSMASTER]

Just now, Selven said:

cx450 $2 more than the 700? and he likes the look of the h17 more, it's not a showpiece. Thank you though, is corsair a much more reliable brand I've always used evga psu's.

 

PSU Tier Ranking List

[Selven]

5 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

 

PSU Tier Ranking List

What about the coolermaster 550, same tier $5 100 more watts?

[Selven]

8 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

The new 2000 series cards seem promising though. 2060 leaked to have almost similar firestrike score as 1080 and 2080 is leaked to perform better than titan v. 

Seems like a 580 or 1060 is more than enough for this build and who knows how out of wack a new release could throw prices out.

[STRESSMASTER]

3 minutes ago, Selven said:

What about the coolermaster 550, same tier $5 100 more watts?

550 is a good solid wattage. it is what I get personally. I tend to overclock all my PC's and video cards and never needed more unless I had 3x the video cards

[Selven]

3 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

550 is a good solid wattage. it is what I get personally. I tend to overclock all my PC's and video cards and never needed more unless I had 3x the video cards

Thank you for the tier list, just went with the good wattage from a reliable brand. Is this upgrade worth $50 or just overkill for his needs? Guess I'm asking if it will perform longer than the i3. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.95 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.60 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $733.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 00:20 EDT-0400

[Selven]

Haven't seen anyone say anything otherwise, xfx a decent enough gpu maker for the build I assume.

[Herman Mcpootis]

20 minutes ago, Selven said:

cx450 $2 more than the 700? and he likes the look of the h17 more, it's not a showpiece. Thank you though, is corsair a much more reliable brand I've always used evga psu's.

all brands have sold rubbish power supplies before, go read good reviews about them instead of looking by brand.

[STRESSMASTER]

10 minutes ago, Selven said:

Thank you for the tier list, just went with the good wattage from a reliable brand. Is this upgrade worth $50 or just overkill for his needs? Guess I'm asking if it will perform longer than the i3. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($150.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.95 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.60 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $733.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 00:20 EDT-0400

I have the ryzen 1600x and love it though for long life get the 1800 you go up 2 cores and 4 threads

[Selven]

1 minute ago, STRESSMASTER said:

I have the ryzen 1600x and love it though for long life get the 1800 you go up 2 cores and 4 threads

Yeah the ryzen 7 is probably better overall, but I don't think the extra $60 is worth it for just playing world of warcraft, not even sure if the 1600 is worth it either, first time I've done a build not solely focused on performance per dollar. Thanks again for the help.

[STRESSMASTER]

8 minutes ago, Selven said:

Yeah the ryzen 7 is probably better overall, but I don't think the extra $60 is worth it for just playing world of warcraft, not even sure if the 1600 is worth it either, first time I've done a build not solely focused on performance per dollar. Thanks again for the help.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534567681&sr=1-5&keywords=ryzen+1700

about the same $$ and a little better

[STRESSMASTER]

Also getting a M.2 drive is much faster and not much more than a SSD. I highly recommend a 

Samsung MZ-V6E250

960 EVO

M.2-2280

SSD

250GB

512MB

$0.400

(160)

$99.89

[Selven]

1 minute ago, STRESSMASTER said:

It as an m.2, really good for the price, don't need more than 120 really but was only 8 bucks more for the 250 version.

 

[Selven]

8 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534567681&sr=1-5&keywords=ryzen+1700

about the same $$ and a little better

This is an interesting option, is it still worth it to get faster ram with ryzen, say 3000 vs 2400 for only 20 cents more per gig?

[STRESSMASTER]

RAM speed make a huge difference if your overclocking. but don't get above 3200

[STRESSMASTER]

you can prob get the 1700 oc'd to 4.4ish +- 0.2 but no matter if your oc'ing or going default get a AIO cooler for it. I recommend the corsair H80i or H100i. I have my fx8350 oc'ed to 5.4 Ghz for years and the temp is less than a decent air cooler. at full load if never goes higher than 62c

[Selven]

Just now, STRESSMASTER said:

RAM speed make a huge difference if your overclocking. but don't get above 3200

So say I throw a hyper 212 on it with 3 120 corsair af fans, could i get a decent enough OC to make the better RAM worth?