best motherboard for my i7-8700k

[Bayonett Priest]

hi im just asking for baybie a better motherboard for my new high end gaming pc

for now i have the Asus ROG MAXIMUS X HERO as my motherboard. is with that motherboard everything overclockable? plan to overclock my cpu, my gpu, and maybie my ram. and when i have the money i wanna buy a second 11GB Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti ROG Strix in SLI!

is there a better alternative or is this motherboard ideal?

[Crunchy Dragon]

That motherboard will work.

 

I wouldn't invest in SLI though.

[Bayonett Priest]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

That motherboard will work.

 

I wouldn't invest in SLI though.

why isnt sli good to make the best out of 2 graphiccards. i hwave not understood sli completly

im a novice with such knowlege

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Bayonett Priest said:

why isnt sli good to make the best out of 2 graphiccards. i hwave not understood sli completly

im a novice with such knowlege

Not very many games support SLI at this point in time. Graphics cards are also powerful enough currently that SLI is really only worth having if you're trying to drive games on resolutions that a single card can't deliver(such as 8k or 16k).

[Bayonett Priest]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Not very many games support SLI at this point in time. Graphics cards are also powerful enough currently that SLI is really only worth having if you're trying to drive games on resolutions that a single card can't deliver(such as 8k or 16k).

oh well 8k is i think too expensive for me. thought i might get a 4k ultrawide curved monitor

[airdeano]

On 7/17/2018 at 11:10 PM, Bayonett Priest said:

..either way i still will wait untill black friday!

are you still waiting for black friday sales or buying now?

'cuz alot will change by then..

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Bayonett Priest said:

oh well 8k is i think too expensive for me. thought i might get a 4k ultrawide curved monitor

A single 1080Ti can run games on 4k without much trouble, there's no real need to have a second one.

[Bayonett Priest]

1 minute ago, airdeano said:

are you still waiting for black friday sales or buying now?

'cuz alot will change by then..

i buying my pc now and the monitor on black friday cause i bought a highly sought after pc case the lian li 011 Dynamic and the stock is filling at the 22 of august so i preordered. luckily the dynamic is i think very hard to get but i live in germany and caseking sells the white one exclusivlly cause lian li and der 8auer(german overclockmaster) desinged the dynamic together and der 8auer is working with caseking.

[airdeano]

the new nVidia GPU will prolly drop just before the holidays.

thread ripper 2 drops as well. kinda the wrong time to buy/build.

RAM is still stupidly high as is the fast storage market.

[Bayonett Priest]

1 minute ago, airdeano said:

the new nVidia GPU will prolly drop just before the holidays.

thread ripper 2 drops as well. kinda the wrong time to buy/build.

RAM is still stupidly high as is the fast storage market.

true maybie a new gpu is anounced at gamescom( am going to it to get the infos firsthand). I heard that these rumors exist and im trying to go away from amd and try something new like intel. can i upgrade when i buy the 8700k? is the icelake-generation thats delayed to 2020 gonna have the same socket or is it different every generation?

[dizmo]

19 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

oh well 8k is i think too expensive for me. thought i might get a 4k ultrawide curved monitor

8k doesn't really exist and neither do true 4k ultrawides. Plus those are generally limited to 60hz anyway, more than capable for a single GTX 1080Ti.

8 minutes ago, airdeano said:

the new nVidia GPU will prolly drop just before the holidays.

thread ripper 2 drops as well. kinda the wrong time to buy/build.

RAM is still stupidly high as is the fast storage market.

I don't think storage is that bad. You can get 2TB SSD's for $300, NVME 1TB drives for $350. The prices seem pretty good. Memory is a little high but really, in the grand scheme of the build, how expensive is $60 really?

3 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

true maybie a new gpu is anounced at gamescom( am going to it to get the infos firsthand). I heard that these rumors exist and im trying to go away from amd and try something new like intel. can i upgrade when i buy the 8700k? is the icelake-generation thats delayed to 2020 gonna have the same socket or is it different every generation?

It'll likely be on a new socket, but really, you should wait a bit and see what the 9700k is like, and whatever their 8 core CPU is.

[O9B0666]

20 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

why isnt sli good to make the best out of 2 graphiccards. i hwave not understood sli completly

im a novice with such knowlege

Everyone here bashes sli... Theirs games that don't officially support it but it still helps some. I'm using crossfire and my wife's we just got her another card to sli hers and no issues as of yet. Yeah a single 1080 ti can run 4k just 40-60 fps on low settings. Sli now is best for high res monitors with 4k as every other application one good card can handle lower res but not 4k high graphics yet. Theirs 165hz 4k monitors out what single card can drive that how it's supposed to be? None sli maybe dying as some claim but until a single card can drive these $2000 monitors theirs still a use in 75% of games. If your going to 4k game and want 75+ fps in high - very high or ultra settings you'll have to sli. 

[DarkSmith2]

10 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

true maybie a new gpu is anounced at gamescom( am going to it to get the infos firsthand). I heard that these rumors exist and im trying to go away from amd and try something new like intel. can i upgrade when i buy the 8700k? is the icelake-generation thats delayed to 2020 gonna have the same socket or is it different every generation?

usually intel stays on the same chipset/socket for 2 generations, Its very unlikely that current boards will work with icelake in 2020. But it looks like that it is compatible with 9700k/9900k in September*.

 

You should wait regardless that 2-3 month until z390 drops before buying. Unless you ultimatively cant wait anymore.

[Bayonett Priest]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

usually intel stays on the same chipset/socket for 2 generations, Its very unlikely that current board will work with icelake in 2020. But it looks like that it is compatible with 9700k/9900k in September*.

WHAT a new chip in september i havent heard that! ok thanks for the info i wait then. until then i am buying my parts that no new ones are coming out when they are on sale.

Do we have any specific specs or are there just rumors that tehy are coming in september. and when they are anounced when is it released?

[DarkSmith2]

8 minutes ago, O9B0666 said:

Everyone here bashes sli... Theirs games that don't officially support it but it still helps some. I'm using crossfire and my wife's we just got her another card to sli hers and no issues as of yet. Yeah a single 1080 ti can run 4k just 40-60 fps on low settings. Sli now is best for high res monitors with 4k as every other application one good card can handle lower res but not 4k high graphics yet. Theirs 165hz 4k monitors out what single card can drive that how it's supposed to be? None sli maybe dying as some claim but until a single card can drive these $2000 monitors theirs still a use in 75% of games. If your going to 4k game and want 75+ fps in high - very high or ultra settings you'll have to sli. 

everyone bashes SLI because the number of really well scaling games is low, and optimisation leaks behind. A new game gets released and you have to fiddle with profiles from other games to make SLI work properly or not even get negative scaling while using it. It is called dead because the real support from developers is missing completely. Poeple make it work themself if they need/want to. Nobody doubts that you can make it work, but its mostly not worth it.

[Bayonett Priest]

7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

8k doesn't really exist and neither do true 4k ultrawides. Plus those are generally limited to 60hz anyway, more than capable for a single GTX 1080Ti.

I don't think storage is that bad. You can get 2TB SSD's for $300, NVME 1TB drives for $350. The prices seem pretty good. Memory is a little high but really, in the grand scheme of the build, how expensive is $60 really?

It'll likely be on a new socket, but really, you should wait a bit and see what the 9700k is like, and whatever their 8 core CPU is.

well i found a 4k curved ultawide but it only has 60 hz and cost 1000€. Is a 3440x1440 ultrawide curved better for now? or are they locked at 60 hz as well?

just got a good deal with my ram 32gb rgp trident 3200 ddr4 for 320€.

 

[DarkSmith2]

4 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

WHAT a new chip in september i havent heard that! ok thanks for the info i wait then. until then i am buying my parts that no new ones are coming out when they are on sale.

Do we have any specific specs or are there just rumors that tehy are coming in september. and when they are anounced when is it released?

We have leaked information.

 

I9 9900k 8Cores /16Threads 95w TDP boost to 5GHz on two cores estimated price 450$/€

i7 9700k 8Cores /8Threads 95w TDP boost to 4,9GHz on two cores estimated price 350$/€

[Bayonett Priest]

2 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

everyone bashes SLI because the number of really well scaling games is low, and optimisation leaks behind. A new game gets released and you have to fiddle with profiles from other games to make SLI work properly or not even get negative scaling while using it. It is called dead because the real support from developers is missing completely. Poeple make it work themself if they need/want to. Nobody doubts that you can make it work, but its mostly not worth it.

and seeing i have no idea with these kind of things i better leave it be

[dizmo]

Just now, Bayonett Priest said:

well i found a 4k curved ultawide but it only has 60 hz and cost 1000€. Is a 3440x1440 ultrawide curved better for now? or are they locked at 60 hz as well?

just got a good deal with my ram 32gb rgp trident 3200 ddr4 for 320€.

 

Not quite. The "4k" ones are 3840x1600. Not really 4k, which is 3840x2160.

You can get high refresh rate 1440p ultrawide monitors, and that's what I'd be aiming for.

[Bayonett Priest]

1 hour ago, DarkSmith2 said:

We have leaked information.

 

I9 9900k 8Cores /16Threads 95w TDP boost to 5GHz on two cores estimated price 450$/€

i7 9700k 8Cores /8threads 95w TDP boost to 4,9GHz on two cores estimated price 350$/€

why has the 9800k only 8 threads? the 8700k has 12 or is it not important?

 

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Not quite. The "4k" ones are 3840x1600. Not really 4k, which is 3840x2160.

You can get high refresh rate 1440p ultrawide monitors, and that's what I'd be aiming for.

ok thanks but i maybie wait for black friday for some deals

[DarkSmith2]

8 minutes ago, Bayonett Priest said:

why has the 9800k only 8 threads? the 8700k has 12 or is it not important?

Well we think that the 9700k are just the chips that cant take hyperthreading, it makes sense poduction wise to do it this way.

Also it will be a little faster than 6cores 12threads. Hyperthreading of the 8700k needs to really scale well to even get close to the performance of 8 real cores. 

Gaming performance wise it wont change much since games arent supporting that many threads/cores. 

 

You can calculate up to 25% for each logical core for a physical. If you take 6threads from hyperthreading of the 8700k its about 1,5 real cores of performance. 

So it would be like 8cores / 8threads vs 7,5. Some games are benefiting from hyperthreading but .. most dont.

[Bayonett Priest]

1 minute ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Well we think that the 9700k are just the chips that cant take hyperthreading, it makes sense poduction wise to do it this way.

Also it will be a little faster than 6cores 12threads. Hyperthreading needs to really scale well to even get close to the performance of 8 real cores. 

Gaming performance wise it wont change much since games arent supporting that many threads/cores. 

 

You can calculate up to 25% for each logical core for a physical. If you take 6threads from hyperthreading of the 8700k its about 1,5 real cores of performance. 

So it would be like 8cores / 8threads vs 7,5. Some games are benefiting from hyperthreading but .. most dont.

i highly thank you fro that realy good explenation to a new builder, now i could understand that that is realy helpfull! now i will wait and get the best new cpu available!