Decent rig for $500CAD no gpu

[Kidlat]

Hi, this is going to be my very first pc build and i am nervous that i might pick some parts that are not compatible with each other, so i will be needing some help in planning and picking up the parts.

I already have an old 1080p monitor, keyboard and mouse, so i only need the pc itself. I am living at a rented room and i dont have any access to my land lord's router so i have to only resort to wifi. Please dont include the gpu for now because i heard nvidia is close to releasing a new line of graphics cards and i have a separate budget for those too. Please include the OS cost within the budget. Thank you so much.

 

[SuperCloneRanger]

Do you plan on using it before you get the graphics card?

Have you got a preference between amd and intel?

do you plan on overclocking?

[ZeouLs]

If we go with fresh out of the box parts

 

AMD Side

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($72.98 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.35 @ OutletPC)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $505.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 04:28 EDT-0400

 

I know too little on the lower end of Intel so I pass on that

[Sernefarian]

Above won't even run a monitor so it'll have to sit until you get a GPU for it. Also that is from US PCPP, not Canadian...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($124.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($80.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($74.84 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: CoolMax - 500W ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($118.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $497.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 04:29 EDT-0400

 

Not gonna lie the above is thoroughly on the low end of things, but will power a monitor and run for you until you get a GPU.

[Kidlat]

7 minutes ago, SuperCloneRanger said:

Do you plan on using it before you get the graphics card?

Have you got a preference between amd and intel?

do you plan on overclocking?

No overclocking would be done for i am not brave enough for it yet. I am gonna be using it as a daily computer light gaming like cs:go and such and will be buying a graphics card like the equivalent of a 1060 but on the next gen of the upcoming gpus. It doesn't really matter whether it will be intel based or amd based

[NMS]

1 minute ago, Sernefarian said:

Above won't even run a monitor so it'll have to sit until you get a GPU for it. Also that is from US PCPP, not Canadian...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($124.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($80.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($74.84 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: CoolMax - 500W ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($118.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $497.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 04:29 EDT-0400

 

Not gonna lie the above is thoroughly on the low end of things, but will power a monitor and run for you until you get a GPU.

I'd say this, but not that power supply. Get at least a gold certified one from either Seasonic or Corsair. And you can buy a windows key for $20 from third-party websites. Also Microsoft themselves make discounts on windows.

[ZeouLs]

3 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

Above won't even run a monitor so it'll have to sit until you get a GPU for it. Also that is from US PCPP, not Canadian...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($124.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($80.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($74.84 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: CoolMax - 500W ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($118.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $497.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 04:29 EDT-0400

 

Not gonna lie the above is thoroughly on the low end of things, but will power a monitor and run for you until you get a GPU.

It wasnt supposed to run until he has his GPU, your single 120gigs wont fit any games either

[Kidlat]

2 minutes ago, ZeouLs said:

It wasnt supposed to run until he has his GPU, your single 120gigs wont fit any games either

I think i can stick to an HDD for now for a bigger storage capacity for the same price. Would having a wifi card be way expensive or is wifi included in the motherboard already??

 

[ZeouLs]

1 minute ago, Kidlat said:

I think i can stick to an HDD for now for a bigger storage capacity for the same price. Would having a wifi card be way expensive or is wifi included in the motherboard already??

 

you would need either a usb wifi adapter or a pcie card. the ones I found are for like 20-30 bucks

[Sernefarian]

2 minutes ago, ZeouLs said:

It wasnt supposed to run until he has his GPU, your single 120gigs wont fit any games either

It can and will now if you want a triple boot OS setup then you'll be left with enough room for depending on the games at least 1 or more. If single OS even more.

 

If it works in the interim then awesome. 2200G would push enough cycles to feed a 1060 equivalent too so since that is what they are aiming for it's good enough.

 

Not sure how I even found the PSU though ... weird thing is I went through the list like 4 times and it only showed the first one. lol

[ZeouLs]

Just now, Sernefarian said:

It can and will now if you want a triple boot OS setup then you'll be left with enough room for depending on the games at least 1 or more. If single OS even more.

 

If it works in the interim then awesome. 2200G would push enough cycles to feed a 1060 equivalent too so since that is what they are aiming for it's good enough.

 

Not sure how I even found the PSU though ... weird thing is I went through the list like 4 times and it only showed the first one. lol

I wouldnt even be able to fit my Arma 3 Folder on that 120 gigs or destiny 2, it's just me then I guess

[Sernefarian]

4 minutes ago, ZeouLs said:

I wouldnt even be able to fit my Arma 3 Folder on that 120 gigs or destiny 2, it's just me then I guess

According to Bungie: Destiny 2 = 50 GB and 68 GB for download. -> LINK

According to game's site for Arma 3 - 25 GB storage space. -> LINK

20GB for a Windows 10 install - LINK -> budget in another ~10 Gigs or so for updates etc. so 30GB.

 

even 68+30 < 120 ... sooo... at least one game. Now if you take mods for a game into account then there is not a whole heck of a lot of room. Will fit the games however.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($145.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - H310M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($70.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($58.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Syba - SY-PEX23063 PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($16.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $484.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 04:56 EDT-0400

get OS from reddit for $25 USD, it'll be abit over but if you can stretch it abit...

[ZeouLs]

3 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

According to Bungie: Destiny 2 = 50 GB and 68 GB for download. -> LINK

According to game's site for Arma 3 - 25 GB storage space. -> LINK

20GB for a Windows 10 install - LINK -> budget in another ~10 Gigs or so for updates etc. so 30GB.

 

even 68+30 < 120 ... sooo... at least one game. Now if you take mods for a game into account then there is not a whole heck of a lot of room. Will fit the games however.

I have at least 100 gigs of Mods for Arma 3, who tf plays stock Arma 3. I couldnt play that for over 1000 hours without mods

And Destiny 2 is getting a new DLC which is said to be make the game hit almost 100GB

[Sernefarian]

Just now, ZeouLs said:

I have at least 100 gigs of Mods for Arma 3, who tf plays stock Arma 3. I couldnt play that for over 1000 hours without mods

You implied the drive wouldn't even fit the game at all. Vendors say different. Also sounds like you are playing modded AF. Have you paired down the mods you don't use?

[ZeouLs]

4 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

You implied the drive wouldn't even fit the game at all. Vendors say different. Also sounds like you are playing modded AF. Have you paired down the mods you don't use?

You have to have a wide variety of mods if you play as vietnam vs usa this week and next week it's russia vs islamic state so yeah I have a very wide varriety of mods which range up to 5GB per mod. Stuff like CUP or RHS, The Unsung vietnam, Nato Russion Weapons, JSRS and the list goes on

[SuperCloneRanger]

Sorry it took me a while to get back to you, here is my pick, you can use it without a graphics card, the processor has built in graphics. It has a nice case and an internal wifi card. its unlikely but you may need to get a loner processor from amd to update the bios. For windows i would suggest getting a cd key from kingguin, its $40CAD rather than $120CAD, some people on here may disagree but i've had several keys from them and had no problems.

 

My pick:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbktQZ

 

Windows key:

https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/ 

 

AMD loner cpu info

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

[Froody129]

I would just wait it out and build all at once. Gives a chance for new hardware to release and for you to increase your budget. No point in building a PC for gaming without a GPU.

 

An alternative is something like a 2200G/2400G, they're good enough at esports that you don't even need a GPU until a good bit later