Which would be a better choice for gaming and streaming? I also plan on editing a lot but in 1080p60fps and some 4K (just iPhone clips).

[supershadow230]

I have a $750-1250 budget and the two pcs i have found are:

 

acer predator Helios 300 laptop

i7 8750h, 16gb ddr4, GTX 1060 6gb, 256ssd

 

custom built desktop 

intel i5 8400

gtx 1060 6gb

8gb ddr4

250ssd 

 

which would y’all recommend i am going to upgrade to 16gb later on if the desktop really needs it.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

The laptop as it has more RAM and hyperthreading not to mention the portability but you can get a better PC for your money such as

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7gfhy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7gfhy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($215.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($140.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($439.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1216.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 23:19 EDT-0400

[supershadow230]

But aren’t cores better than threads? And the i5 8400 according to a website is more powerful? If i upgrade o 16gb should will it be the same as the laptop

[Crunchy Dragon]

-Moved to New Builds and Planning-

 

5 minutes ago, supershadow230 said:

But aren’t cores better than threads? And the i5 8400 according to a website is more powerful? If i upgrade o 16gb should will it be the same as the laptop

8400 has higher single threaded performance which will help you in gaming, but for streaming you want as many cores as possible. RYzen 7 has 8 cores/16 threads, i5-8400 has 6 cores/6 threads.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

8 minutes ago, supershadow230 said:

But aren’t cores better than threads? And the i5 8400 according to a website is more powerful? If i upgrade o 16gb should will it be the same as the laptop

Get the Ryzen build I put above which will beat both of those in everything because of the 8 core Ryzen 7 and the GTX 1070 Ti

[supershadow230]

Would the i5 8400 have any problems or would it be just fine? it’s not a bad cpu is it? It’s pretty affordable but if i must change it i guess

[Streetguru]

28 minutes ago, supershadow230 said:

 

Neither get an R7 1700 machine for streaming.

Even the R5 1600 would be better for streaming, but you can easily get an R7 chip

What's your monitor resolution/refresh rate? Do you only have one display?

[Firewrath9]

18 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

The laptop as it has more RAM and hyperthreading not to mention the portability but you can get a better PC for your money such as

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7gfhy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7gfhy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($215.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($140.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($439.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1216.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 23:19 EDT-0400

I would get a 1800x only 10$ more

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Firewrath9 said:

I would get a 1800x only 10$ more

Why? You can overclock the 1700 to perform like an 1800X

[supershadow230]

2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Get the Ryzen build I put above which will beat both of those in everything because of the 8 core Ryzen 7 and the GTX 1070 Ti

I don’t need a GTX 1070ti for gaming since I’ll be capped at 60fps would the cpu your telling me to buy work on my build?

[desertcomputer]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Why? You can overclock the 1700 to perform like an 1800X

You don't have overclock and save time?

[Firewrath9]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Why? You can overclock the 1700 to perform like an 1800X

The 1800x is a higher binned 1700. You can overclock it more than the 1700

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, supershadow230 said:

I don’t need a GTX 1070ti for gaming since I’ll be capped at 60fps would the cpu your telling me to buy work on my build?

I don't need a 1080 Ti for the games I play but I still have one. Always get the most powerful hardware you can within your budget, plus you might upgrade to a 1440p panel later

[supershadow230]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Neither get an R7 1700 machine for streaming.

Even the R5 1600 would be better for streaming, but you can easily get an R7 chip

What's your monitor resolution/refresh rate? Do you only have one display?

I only have one display at 60hz and I’ll be mostly working with fortnite clips and streaming. Do i really need the extra threads for editing in 1080p60fps with some light 4K 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, supershadow230 said:

I don’t need a GTX 1070ti for gaming since I’ll be capped at 60fps would the cpu your telling me to buy work on my build?

You don't need to cap your gameplay at 60fps to stream at 60fps, but if you're only gaming on a 1080p 60hz monitor an RX 570/580 will be fine

Could just add the cooler later

A 2nd monitor is highly useful for streaming. That one's also 1080p IPS 75hz with free-sync.

You 100% want the 8 core for streaming/recording.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmjMw6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmjMw6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($215.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.19 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB DUAL Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone - Redline RL06BR-PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1153.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 23:41 EDT-0400

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, supershadow230 said:

I only have one display at 60hz and I’ll be mostly working with fortnite clips and streaming. Do i really need the extra threads for editing in 1080p60fps with some light 4K 

For streaming the extra cores will be a great help. Additionally to go along with the build I suggest a monitor upgrade to something like a cheap 4K monitor which you'll need a powerful GPU like a 1070 Ti to game on

[supershadow230]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

You don't need to cap your gameplay at 60fps to stream at 60fps, but if you're only gaming on a 1080p 60hz monitor an RX 570/580 will be fine

Could just add the cooler later

A 2nd monitor is highly useful for streaming. That one's also 1080p IPS 75hz with free-sync.

You 100% want the 8 core for streaming/recording.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmjMw6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmjMw6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($215.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.19 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB DUAL Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone - Redline RL06BR-PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1153.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-22 23:41 EDT-0400

Does it really make a difference for me to notice it? 

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

The 1800x is a higher binned 1700. You can overclock it more than the 1700

No, it's equally binned, same with the 1200/1300X and the 1600/1600X...

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, supershadow230 said:

Does it really make a difference for me to notice it? 

The extra cores? Yes.

 

HUGE difference.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, supershadow230 said:

Does it really make a difference for me to notice it? 

What? 

[supershadow230]

2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

For streaming the extra cores will be a great help. Additionally to go along with the build I suggest a monitor upgrade to something like a cheap 4K monitor which you'll need a powerful GPU like a 1070 Ti to game on

Would the Ryzen 7 and a GTX 1060 6gb with 16gb ram 500gb SSD be fine? like i won’t be using the gpu too much except on fortnite 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, supershadow230 said:

Would the Ryzen 7 and a GTX 1060 6gb with 16gb ram 500gb SSD be fine? like i won’t be using the gpu too much except on fortnite 

Yes, that would be fine although I'd get an RX 580 for FreeSync

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, supershadow230 said:

Does it really make a difference for me to notice it? 

The difference in CPU performance between the i5 8400 and R7 1700?

You're going to want the RX 580 8GB over the 1060, mostly for free-sync savings, but the extra VRAM may be useful.

Yes. Very. Basically you give your game 4 cores/8 threads and give OBS 4 cores/8Threads
 

Ryzen has more headroom while streaming here, meaning less chance for dropped frames, or being able to push the quality higher

Ryzen is also easier to keep cool due to the soldered IHS.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-streaming-encoding-coffee-lake-ryzen,5326-4.html

[supershadow230]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

The extra cores? Yes.

 

HUGE difference.

But the i5 8400 wouldn’t been bad would it because according to CPU Bench it’s on par with an i7700k and that cpu was used for streaming too. I also want integrated graphics to use my pc while I wait to buy a gpu. 

[Streetguru]

Just now, supershadow230 said:

But the i5 8400 wouldn’t been bad would it because according to CPU Bench it’s on par with an i7700k and that cpu was used for streaming too. I also want integrated graphics to use my pc while I wait to buy a gpu. 

Useless website, look for actual reviews/testing

 

There's no reason to wait to buy a GPU, unless you don't actually have the $1200 right now?

In which case you should be buying a decent R3 2200G/R5 2400G machine.