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DICKHILL

Are there any new upcoming Nvidia GTXs on its way?

 

Because, I've just bought a MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X for around 1050 USD. (Haven't installed it yet.)

But then I started to think if it were a bit overkill for my i7-4770K CPU, MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard and 16 GB RAM...?

I then heard from a friend that a new model should be on its way, so I maybe should wait before buying a new GFX.

 

The reason why I'm looking for new GFX, is due to my two bad 2-way SLI 660s, where the fans now are completely dead, unless they run at 100%.

 

 

Sooo.... Should I return it and wait, maybe buy a smaller card or just install the 1080 Ti and go nuts, untill my CPU will bottleneck it?

I want to "secure the future", but I do still have a very old CPU and only three 24" 1080P HDMI monitors...

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There are rumors that new GPUs will be released in a few months, but no confirmed information.

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1080ti now its a good choice, 1070ti also , the rest a little less bang for buck, dont worry about that, till 1180ti cames (and outperforms your 1080ti because a new 1180 will be the same or lower as your ti) its going to be at least 6 months (at least) and will be 1200-1400 (at least)

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Just get the 1080ti. With prices in Denmark, unless you can cough up equivalent of USD1500, you wont be able to get the faster 1180 at launch anyway.

27 minutes ago, Peskanova said:

a new 1180 will be the same or lower as your ti

How can you pull that estimation off. 1080 outperforms the 980ti, while 980 outperforms the 780ti. History doesnt support your estimation.

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just get the 1080ti. With prices in Denmark, unless you can cough up equivalent of USD1500, you wont be able to get the faster 1180 at launch anyway.

How can you pull that estimation off. 1080 outperforms the 980ti, while 980 outperforms the 780ti. History doesnt support your estimation.

Just look volta price-specs.

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59 minutes ago, Peskanova said:

Just look volta price-specs.

you talked about performance only

1 hour ago, Peskanova said:

1180ti cames (and outperforms your 1080ti because a new 1180 will be the same or lower as your ti)

not price.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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Everybody... Sorry for the late reply!
I had an appointment at the vet with my dog...

 

 

1 hour ago, Sakkura said:

There are rumors that new GPUs will be released in a few months, but no confirmed information.

Which then must be the 1180 the rest are talking about, for around 1500 USD... :P

 

I could - "if necessary" - wait a month or so... But not 6 months like Peskanova mentions...

And if I decided to wait, it would only be to see the prices on the 1080 Ti.

Which I honestly don't think would drop that much...

 

 

1 hour ago, Peskanova said:

1080ti now its a good choice, 1070ti also , the rest a little less bang for buck, dont worry about that, till 1180ti cames (and outperforms your 1080ti because a new 1180 will be the same or lower as your ti) its going to be at least 6 months (at least) and will be 1200-1400 (at least)

I did actually order a 1070 Ti at first, but never picked it up.

Because after some reading and youtubing, a lot of people thinks it's a card that never should have been made. (Mostly due to the striction about manifactor OC (and prices?))

But of what I understood, it should easily be OCed up to a 1080 stock performance?

 

It is much cheaper though... - But how long will it last when OCed versus the 1080 Ti?

 

Here's a more precise pricelist from the same store I bought my 1080 Ti: (Can be found a bit cheaper...)
(All MSI Gaming X, except 1070 Ti. - Asus = ROG Strix)

  • 1060: $416 (Asus OC: $452)
  • 1070: $650 (Asus OC: $635)
  • 1070 Ti: $635 (Asus Advanced: $706)
  • 1080: $790 (Asus: $760)
  • 1080 Ti: $1044 (Asus OC: $1107)

 

 

49 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just get the 1080ti. With prices in Denmark, unless you can cough up equivalent of USD1500, you wont be able to get the faster 1180 at launch anyway.

How can you pull that estimation off. 1080 outperforms the 980ti, while 980 outperforms the 780ti. History doesnt support your estimation.

I can afford much much more, even that I think 1044 USD is a bit much... (Especially when I'm not gaming that much, due to my bad 660s...)

But then... When will the 1180 be launched, since it sounds like it's not even confirmed yet?

I could wait about a month, but not much longer... :/

 

What I'm most concerned about, is that my CPU will be a huge bottleneck to the 1080 Ti and I instead could have bought a smaller/cheaper card to get the exact same performance for much less money.

But... If a ie. 1070(Ti) can deliver same details/quality atm., but the 1080 Ti will last (much) longer, I really think it would be worth it.

In some point, I have to upgrade my CPU, etc., later on and if the 1080 Ti lasts longer, then I don't have to worry about a new GPU.

(Instead I then easily could spend more money on a proper CPU and enough RAM... xD )

 

 

41 minutes ago, Jumas548 said:

@DICKHILL I like your name and pic lol 

Haha... Thanks! xD

I have been thinking about a new nickname, since its not allowed everywhere... O.o

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Also....... At the moment i have three monitors which would be cool to use when gaming... B|

But they are quite old... - 1080p and only HDMI.

 

A 1070 Ti have 3x DP, 1x HDMI & 1x DVI, which then requires new cable(s).

I'm that kind which only accepts three new DP>HDMI cables, but that costs FROM 78 USD...

(Adapters could do it, but I don't expect much...)

 

 

Where 1080 Ti have 2x DP, 2x HDMI & 1x DVI, which I can use right away...

But what about later on, when I upgrade my monitors which then have DP-ports?

Will it affect anything that I then have to use HDMI on one of my monitors?

I have though been recommended to only buy one good/great gaming monitor (curved, maybe :D) and then just skip the rest when gaming...

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35 minutes ago, DICKHILL said:

But then... When will the 1180 be launched, since it sounds like it's not even confirmed yet?

I could wait about a month, but not much longer... :/

The most optimistic rumour puts it on July 30, but then there are news saying Nvidia overestimated the demand for mining GPUs and ended up with wayyy too many Pascal GPU cores in the warehouses to waste, therefore Nvidia plans on delaying the launch of new cards while pressuring retailers to drop prices on old cares to clear up stock faster.

 

I'd say just get the 1080ti and stay away from any news related to 11 series. I'm sure it's better value.

 

35 minutes ago, DICKHILL said:

What I'm most concerned about, is that my CPU will be a huge bottleneck to the 1080 Ti and I instead could have bought a smaller/cheaper card to get the exact same performance for much less money.

But... If a ie. 1070(Ti) can deliver same details/quality atm., but the 1080 Ti will last (much) longer, I really think it would be worth it.

In some point, I have to upgrade my CPU, etc., later on and if the 1080 Ti lasts longer, then I don't have to worry about a new GPU.

(Instead I then easily could spend more money on a proper CPU and enough RAM... xD )

If going down to 1070ti means getting 8700k and other stuff now or in the near future, get the 1070ti. Otherwise, stay with the 1080ti.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The most optimistic rumour puts it on July 30, but then there are news saying Nvidia overestimated the demand for mining GPUs and ended up with wayyy too many Pascal GPU cores in the warehouses to waste, therefore Nvidia plans on delaying the launch of new cards while pressuring retailers to drop prices on old cares to clear up stock faster.

 

I'd say just get the 1080ti and stay away from any news related to 11 series. I'm sure it's better value.

 

If going down to 1070ti means getting 8700k and other stuff now or in the near future, get the 1070ti. Otherwise, stay with the 1080ti.

Even if Nvidia said it on their website, I wouldn't belive it to be that soon! :P

Doesn't it normally take a month or more from launch/announcement until it will be able to buy? (Ofcourse depends on country, dealer, etc...)

 

Even with 1070 Ti, I don't have any plans on upgrading the rest at the moment.

I am though pretty tired of my i7-4770K's heating problems. (up to 78 celcius with ambient temp at 14 when stress-testing.)

So it won't take long but still a year or two, since it runs stable and I still can upgrade fans and CPU aio watercooler.

 

So will the 1080 Ti still be a usefull card in a couple of years or should I just go with a smaller one now and then look for a greater card later, when the rest will be upgraded?

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34 minutes ago, DICKHILL said:

Even if Nvidia said it on their website, I wouldn't belive it to be that soon! :P

Doesn't it normally take a month or more from launch/announcement until it will be able to buy? (Ofcourse depends on country, dealer, etc...)

about a month for custom cards. Reference ones are often available for order shortly after the launch.

 

35 minutes ago, DICKHILL said:

So will the 1080 Ti still be a usefull card in a couple of years or should I just go with a smaller one now and then look for a greater card later, when the rest will be upgraded?

get the 1080ti.

 

You can estimate how well cards age by looking at the 900 series. 980ti is now 3 years old, good for 1080p 144Hz/1440p 60Hz gaming on high to very high graphics quality. The 980 (see this as how 1070ti will be in the future) is 4 years old and now a 1080p 60fps card, with also high to very high graphical quality.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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40 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

about a month for custom cards. Reference ones are often available for order shortly after the launch.

 

get the 1080ti.

 

You can estimate how well cards age by looking at the 900 series. 980ti is now 3 years old, good for 1080p 144Hz/1440p 60Hz gaming on high to very high graphics quality. The 980 (see this as how 1070ti will be in the future) is 4 years old and now a 1080p 60fps card, with also high to very high graphical quality.

Sorry... Forgot to hit the reply button...

Okaay.  But even if a new is coming soon, I don't think I would spend the aprox 1500 USD on that.

... wait a minute!... I just realized how much that actually is... xD (Around 300 USD less than my whole PC)

So that ain't gonna happen! - I would then just see how cheaper the 1080 Ti will get, if any at all...

 

Yeah okay... So 1080 Ti should last pretty long (depends on many things, of course), if looking at the history.

But then again... When only having 1080p 60Hz HDMI monitors, wouldn't it just be better to buy a smaller card and the go nuts in a year or two, when all other hardware needs to be replaces anyway?

The price difference between 1070 Ti and 1080 Ti is still around 400 USD and it sounds like I don't even will be able to use the better performance due to my other hardware?

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15 minutes ago, DICKHILL said:

But then again... When only having 1080p 60Hz HDMI monitors, wouldn't it just be better to buy a smaller card and the go nuts in a year or two, when all other hardware needs to be replaces anyway?

arent you going ultrawide with 3 monitors at once?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

arent you going ultrawide with 3 monitors at once?

Not at the moment, thanks to my two 660s...
But I would looove the possibility and if the 1080 Ti can do that and smaller can't, then I definitely keep the one I already bought! :o

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