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Intel Whiskey Lake U 14nm++ 15w CPU launch imminent with only minor boost clock improvements over KB-R

Intel's Whiskey Lake U 15w CPUs have been revealed and the only 2 CPUs revealed thus far feature incredibly minor clock speed improvements over KB-R.

 

The 2 CPUs we know of are the i5-8265U with the same base clock and a 500MHz higher boost clock (3.9GHz) and the i7-8565U with the same base clock and a 500MHz boost clock increase (4.5GHz).

 

They allegedly got the higher clocks from further optimization of their design process and power management.

 

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The processors were revealed by Tum Apisak, over on his twitter feed, a few days ago. The CPUs include the Core i7-8565U (succeeding the Core i7-8550U) and the Core i5-8265U (succeeding the Core i5-8250U). Both of these chips are based on the 14nm++ process node and feature the same Kaby Lake architecture that is found on the previous Kaby Lake-R chips for mobility platforms. The difference is that Intel managed to squeeze a bit more clock speeds out of these chips due to a further optimized process design and power management changes, otherwise, you won’t see a big difference between the underlying specs on both families.

 

 

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Since these processors are being listed by OEMs, we can expect a launch really soon. The CPUs are still based on current generation architecture and process node which would see little interest in the consumer market and with a delayed 10nm process node, there’s little Intel could do to avert the situation.

 

 

Intel, go home you're drunk. At least you had the courage to tell us with "Whiskey" being part of your new CPU gen's name.

 

Seriously, these clocks are nice but launching an all-new CPU gen to do so is such a dick move to 8th Gen KB-R users. Why not just launch an i5-8270U as a new KB-R chip? and launch the i7-8565U as an i7-8570U KB-R chip? That would have made so much more sense and been pro-consumer than this nonsense of releasing a new lineup with only 2 CPUs and nothing substantially better about them.

 

Source: https://wccftech.com/intel-whiskey-lake-u-8th-gen-core-i7-8565u-core-i5-8265u-cpu-leak/

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You actually have hope on Intel doing sensible stuff?

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I've given up trying to keep track of all the mobile chips, goddamn

Judge the product by its own merits, not by the Company that created it.

 

Don't dilute <good thing> by always trying to focus on, and drag conversation back to, <bad thing>.

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It sounds to me like they are launching (and branding) these exactly as what they are - Kaby Lake Refresh parts (or is that Kaby Lake Refresh Refresh? Not sure.)

 

It's not like they have been branded as 9000 series parts which would indicate some major step forward, only that they fit slightly higher in the product line than current Kaby Lake R parts, which for once, actually does make sense.

 

Whether Kaby Lake R parts should have been branded as 8000 series at all on the mobile side is the real problem in my opinion, and it's a decision they made a long time ago to much confusion.

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This is a mid-cycle update.

These things would be INSANE though, 4.3Ghz all-core when tuned to 45w.

But these chips never turbo that high stock anyway, and end consumers are bound to not give that much of a fuck.

 

also @AluminiumTech - your status - Intel are not getting desperate.

On the desktop, maybe. But on the mobile scene AMD are BARELY competing outside of North America.

I still haven't seen a Ryzen U laptop for sale here in Australia, and we're the original launch region for most of Lenovo's shit.

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41 minutes ago, Deli said:

The donkey is running out of new trick.

to be fair to intel they're still working on their 10nm implementation, which I think caused a major client company to crash from delaying the delivery so much ._.

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7 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

This is a mid-cycle update.

These things would be INSANE though, 4.3Ghz all-core when tuned to 45w.

 

Intel limits these CPUs to between 15 and 25w TDP configurable by OEMs.

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11 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

to be fair to intel they're still working on their 10nm implementation, which I think caused a major client company to crash from delaying the delivery so much ._.

Technically they are shipping 10nm 15w CPUs today but they're just so low volume and awful it's really not worth it. They are dual-core i3s without an iGPU.

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3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Intel limits these CPUs to between 15 and 25w TDP configurable by OEMs.

Yes, but you can push them up to 45w using XTU if the OEM has unlocked the power limit.

 

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47 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

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Another mobile processor beating my good old chip

 

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its obvious Core is EoL they started work on a new non core mArch last year or year before they probably just trying their best to be super competitive until they can rebound and go back to being clearly better than AMD. lets hope they do so AMD has to step it up and come back at intel so we dont get another 4-5 years of lame incremental improvements

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Intel Core i7-8700K, 16 GB DDR4-3000, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080, Microsoft Windows 10. More.

 

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2 hours ago, Droidbot said:

Yes, but you can push them up to 45w using XTU if the OEM has unlocked the power limit.

 

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I have asus x570ud , i5-8250u with gtx 1050 and most of the time i hit power limit at 15w, but sometime goes to 20w without reaching power limit, any idea ? :D

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6 minutes ago, Likwid said:

I have asus x570ud , i5-8250u with gtx 1050 and most of the time i hit power limit at 15w, but sometime goes to 20w without reaching power limit, any idea ? :D

There are a few different power limits on the Intel chips.

 

1. Base Power Limit

2. Turbo Boost Power Limit

3. Turbo Boost Power Max Power Limit

 

Power limits 1 and 2 are always available if thermals are ok. Power limit 3 usually has a period of time tied to it.

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Damn straight. One minute you're opening Visual Studio, the next your crotch is on fire.

 

I find it hard to believe that pushing this thing to it's limits will keep to that exact TDP profile. Especially with Intel, TDP is nothing but a rough estimate.

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“double-digit performance gains”

 

- Translation… barely 10 % improvement then… higher clock speed again… as you were… same old crap from Intel for the past 10 years.

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>Whiskey Lake

 

Intel are alcoholics confirmed.

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It's so hard to keep track now that even if the AMD counterpart performs slightly worse at least you understand what you are buying

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16 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

>Whiskey Lake

 

Intel are alcoholics confirmed.

I should point out, as a Scotsman, that real "whiskey" is called Whisky. "Whiskey" is for Irish or American imitations.

 

Come at me bourbon drinkers. :)

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Not even sure if I should even be mad that they keep refreshing like this. I mean from what I understand at a certain point it becomes both difficult and uneconomical to shrink the node on silicon as you approach 7nm transistor size. Maybe what we're getting with repeated improvements on 14nm is just as good as an unoptomised 10/ 7nm?

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18 minutes ago, Tabs said:

I should point out, as a Scotsman, that real "whiskey" is called Whisky. "Whiskey" is for Irish or American imitations.

 

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1 hour ago, Christophe Corazza said:

Damn straight. One minute you're opening Visual Studio, the next your crotch is on fire.

 

I find it hard to believe that pushing this thing to it's limits will keep to that exact TDP profile. Especially with Intel, TDP is nothing but a rough estimate.

Intel TDP ratings are based off base clocks not boost clocks. That’s how they managed to add 2 more cores but keep the same “TDP”, by dropping the bass clocks way down.

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If C++++ is anything to go by the next release or two will be 14nm#

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